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re: The MJ Lebron comparison cracks me up
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:35 pm to SlowFlowPro
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lebon's career is actually going similarly to shaq's career in terms of public perception. does anybody remember shaq being crucified for that comment about never winning a title in high school or college?
The problem with that comparison is that Shaq performed extremely well in the Finals in just his third season, and his team clearly lost because it was outmatched by a veteran team.
LeBron gets a pass for his first Final appearance without question -- the Cavs never should've been there, and he was what, 22?
His timidness in this year's Finals, though, playing alongside a guy like Wade, is inexcusable for a guy with his talent (and guy who's been compared to the all-time greats who never had that problem in the Finals). It may not show up on the stat sheet, but he underperformed in this series and it affected his team.
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Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:36 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
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It does, however, you can't use it as an excuse.
Okay? Where is this coming from?
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NBA stats don't have an asterisk b/c you came from high school.
Once again, huh? What does this have anything to do with what we are discussing?
Age is the argument. It's what matters.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:37 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
the comparison shouldnt even be made. they are both really good players. MJ is one of the best and lebrons career isnt even half way over. the comparison is for old dumbasses who watch just a few NBA games a year and then complain about the refs.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:38 pm to GeorgeTheGreek
I haven't seen anyone use it as an excuse
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:38 pm to mattz1122
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His timidness in this year's Finals, though, playing alongside a guy like Wade, is inexcusable for a guy with his talent
No doubt. It still doesn't warrant MJ comparisons.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:39 pm to mattz1122
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The problem with that comparison is that Shaq performed extremely well in the Finals in just his third season, and his team clearly lost because it was outmatched by a veteran team.
i'm pretty sure lebron performed well, statistically, in his first trip to the finals
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and his team clearly lost because it was outmatched by a veteran team.
like the rockets and magic
and he didn't do that bad this year, except for game 4 (which was horrible and there is no excuse for)
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His timidness in this year's Finals, though, playing alongside a guy like Wade, is inexcusable for a guy with his talent
i honestly think spolestra wanted wade to be the scorer, especially late
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:40 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
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Age is the argument. It's what matters.
and for the record, my "age is the argument" argument has nothing to do with lebron. i've been making the same argument for at least 10 years
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:40 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i'm pretty sure lebron performed well, statistically, in his first trip to the finals
He didn't, not at all, actually.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:40 pm to LSUSOBEAST1
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No doubt. It still doesn't warrant MJ comparisons.
i don't think any lebron fan, outside of his entourage, thinks lebron maxed out or did really well this finals
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:41 pm to shel311
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He didn't, not at all, actually.
i just glanced and it looked like a 20/5/5 line for the series
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:41 pm to SlowFlowPro
"King James" will never be on MJ's level.
/thread
/thread
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:42 pm to Afreaux
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"King James" will never be on MJ's level.
impossible to know right now. simply impossible
if lebron puts in another offseason working on his jumper, and if he can develop his new post game, it will be a sight to see
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i just glanced and it looked like a 20/5/5 line for the series
Below average across the boards AND he shot 35%.
That's the biggie.
he didn't play well at all.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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like the rockets and magic
That's what I was referencing. The point is that LeBron is in a different stage in his career, with a different set of circumstances.
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i honestly think spolestra wanted wade to be the scorer, especially late
This doesn't excuse LeBron from passing on open shots, taking timid drives to the basket that ended in turnovers, and treating the ball as a hot potato before even attempting to facilitate anything.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:43 pm to Afreaux
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"King James" will never be on MJ's level.
Why not? Is this just because of rings? Or because Lebron isn't as clutch?
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:43 pm to mattz1122
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This doesn't excuse LeBron from passing on open shots,
he mainly did this in games 4/5, and nobody is arguing anything about game 4
i think his jumper just wasn't there in 5 and he knew it. he was distributing the ball
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:44 pm to SlowFlowPro
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he mainly did this in games 4/5, and nobody is arguing anything about game 4
And tonight.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:46 pm to mattz1122
he shot more than wade did in the 4th, and he didn't have as many stupid plays
i know this is changing it up a little, but wade really did cool the frick off as that series went on
i know this is changing it up a little, but wade really did cool the frick off as that series went on
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:46 pm to mattz1122
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he mainly did this in games 4/5, and nobody is arguing anything about game 4
And tonight.
Why does everybody always want LeBron to shoot low percentage shots?
Just because he is open on those shots does not always make them good shots.
Posted on 6/12/11 at 10:49 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i honestly think spolestra wanted wade to be the scorer, especially late
There isn't anything wrong with that strategy, but how does it make up for the fact that Lebron passed up at least half a dozen wide open shots in the 4th quarter of pretty much every game of the series?
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