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re: The assault on Terrelle Pyror is getting out of hand

Posted on 5/31/11 at 3:31 pm to
Posted by barry
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Posted on 5/31/11 at 3:31 pm to
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. Until the NCAA comes down harder on the coaches, players will continued to get screwed for doing things that young adults do; frick up.


Are you kidding me? I wonder what would have happened to my arse at LSU if i caught cheating in my engineering classes?


the players don't really get screwed, the Universities do.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 5/31/11 at 3:31 pm to
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who cares, it comes with the territory. If you are in the spotlight, you will be built up and torn down. Cash in on it while you can. If this stuff bothers Terrelle, he could always quit football and work a 8-5 job, no one will bother him then


Pay them stipends then. Lord knows the NCAA and universities have been hoeing these kids out for years.
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/31/11 at 3:32 pm to
Here's my thoughts on Pryor from an earlier thread:

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People single Pryor out for two reasons:

1) He's the most visible player on the team. From his recruitment to being the "star qb" with Heisman talks, he is the current face of OSU football. That's what HE wants. The way he carries himself, the decisions he makes put him in that position. You have to take the good with the bad when in the spotlight. It's not all just winning football games.

2) He continually does stupid things. Whether its claiming that "everybody kills everybody" or he has a new car to "test drive" every week or is getting caught up in the middle of a drug trafficker, there is a pattern of him putting himself in bad situations. He clearly has no respect for the University or even his teammates IMO. In the NFL they call these people "cancer" and its an adequate term here.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 5/31/11 at 3:33 pm to
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Pryor has no respect for the university or his teammates. He's demonstrated it time and again. frick him


Neither do the other 28 players and the countless others that continued to do the same things as him.

So what? There young adults, they are gonna mess up.

Gene Smith? Jim Tressell? These grown men know better and showed just as much disregard for the university as the players did.
Posted by barry
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Posted on 5/31/11 at 3:33 pm to
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Pay them stipends then. Lord knows the NCAA and universities have been hoeing these kids out for years.



Only about 18 universities have athletic budgets in the black, how do you plan on doing this?

BTW I hardly consider full rides to college including room and board "hoeing"
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 5/31/11 at 3:33 pm to
Aren't most college athletes 18 or older? that's adult in every state in the united states!

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He's an adult, he knows better. Or at least he should.

That applies to Terrelle Pryor too. It doesn't matter if he's been told he's god's gift to man. he should have known better. To say he's used to getting everything is an excuse that lots of people could use to justify horrible behavior.
Posted by Palm Beach Tiger
Orlando, Florida
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/31/11 at 3:33 pm to
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Pay them stipends then. Lord knows the NCAA and universities have been hoeing these kids out for years.


I'm on board with that.
Posted by saintsfan22
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Member since May 2006
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Posted on 5/31/11 at 3:33 pm to
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If they won a NC, do you think the 2nd string free safety would be getting equal amounts of glory?


When the whole story came out before the Sugar Bowl it was the "Ohio State 5" not just Pryor. It's not like the other players are scrubs it's a all-conf. Lineman, All-conf WR, and the starting RB included.
Posted by SprintFun
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
45794 posts
Posted on 5/31/11 at 3:33 pm to
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Pay them stipends then. Lord knows the NCAA and universities have been hoeing these kids out for years.



OSU players at least do get stipends.
Posted by bayoujd
Member since Jan 2009
2775 posts
Posted on 5/31/11 at 3:34 pm to
Pryor is a punk and about as overrated a player as I can recall. He's getting his due.

As for Tressel, he's not a "good man". He's a liar and a cheater. Just because someone wears a sweater vest, or likes to be called "The Senator", does not make that person honorable.
Posted by 225rumpshaker
Texas
Member since Sep 2006
8691 posts
Posted on 5/31/11 at 3:34 pm to
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SprintFun
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
30922 posts
Posted on 5/31/11 at 3:38 pm to
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So what? There young adults, they are gonna mess up.

young adults or not, if u frick up u pay the price.

when you frick up over and over, you pay a heavier price.

did you see the sweet ride TP is rolling in TODAY? kid is fricking idiot.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 5/31/11 at 3:39 pm to
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OSU players at least do get stipends.



If you live off campus, you get a housing stipend. Two of my better friends and roommates were football players at Tulane from 2006-2010. They dont get much though, if you consider the average price of rent uptown.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
36107 posts
Posted on 5/31/11 at 3:40 pm to
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FWIW, I don't blame TP at all for Tress getting fired. I honestly don't. None.

He is still a complete moron. He still brings absolutely horrible publicity to the school. He clearly doesn't care at all about his actions and has no self-awareness. And I hope he never plays another down for OSU.



I think this is how I would feel if I were a Buckeye

Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
30922 posts
Posted on 5/31/11 at 3:40 pm to
tulane =/= tosu

new orleans housing market =/= columbus ohio housing market
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 5/31/11 at 3:40 pm to
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did you see the sweet ride TP is rolling in TODAY? kid is fricking idiot.


That was just stupid. He's an idiot alright. But he had a bunch of enablers around him. Its a broken infrastructure, and if they were smart, they would just stare it all down..and rid themselves of the Tressell/Smith era.
Posted by StrongSafety
Member since Sep 2004
17547 posts
Posted on 5/31/11 at 3:41 pm to
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tulane =/= tosu

new orleans housing market =/= columbus ohio housing market


I don't know how it is up there, but it was a comparsion.
Posted by Poodlebrain
Way Right of Rex
Member since Jan 2004
19860 posts
Posted on 5/31/11 at 3:42 pm to
Wait a minuute, when does a kid become a man? We give 18 year old certain privileges as being adults. With those privileges come responsibilities, and accountability. Terrelle Prior took advantage of the privileges, and he ignored the resposibilites. For that he is being held accountable. That is exactly how the system is supposed to work.

Tressell, for certain, and Smith possibly, aided Pryor in abusing the privileges according to recently released information with respect to the favorable use of vehicles. Tressell compouded that by failing to force Pryor to take responsibility for his infractions as well as failing to hold him accountable for the infractions. Now Tressell is being held accountable for failing in his responsibility.

If Ohio State had enforced accountability from the ground up, as it should have, it wouldn't be getting it from the top down by the NCAA and public opinion.
Posted by Tiger in NY
Neptune Beach, FL
Member since Sep 2003
30357 posts
Posted on 5/31/11 at 3:42 pm to
I don't have any problems with TP. He is no different than any number of high profile college athletes (and that goes for a few who have come through LSU as well).
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
30922 posts
Posted on 5/31/11 at 3:43 pm to
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But he had a bunch of enablers around him

agree 100%

quote:

Its a broken infrastructure, and if they were smart, they would just stare it all down..and rid themselves of the Tressell/Smith

1/2 that is already taken care of.

which is why i dont understand your OP. people are all over vest moreso than TP
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