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Texas also told players not to publically commit

Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:33 am
Posted by tigerskin
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:33 am
Posted by TI12
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:35 am to
That's a Strong strategy.

Paid off for him though.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:38 am to
thats fine for uncommitted kids

but for committed kids to not at least de-commit, it just doesn't sit right with me

I couldn't do it. I couldn't just lie to other coaches that were, by all accounts, good to me.

I realize its part of the game for the coaches, but for the kids to sign off on it? I wouldn't want my kid to do that.
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:41 am to
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but for committed kids to not at least de-commit, it just doesn't sit right with me

I couldn't do it. I couldn't just lie to other coaches that were, by all accounts, good to me.

I realize its part of the game for the coaches, but for the kids to sign off on it? I wouldn't want my kid to do that.


That makes no sense. What is your issue? They did not publicly announce their intention? Is it any better that a commit takes a trip after his word?
This post was edited on 2/4/16 at 11:43 am
Posted by lsu31always
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:42 am to
His issue is that is a scholarship that could have gone to another kid.
Posted by BuddyLAM
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:42 am to
I guess they didn't want any OM antics like skydiving
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:43 am to
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That makes no sense. What is your issue? They did not publicly announce their intention?

he's saying that it's a dick move to be committed and then flip at the last minute even though you knew you were going to do it.

his argument (i tend to agree) is that if you know 100% you are going to flip, you should at least de-commit from the school you are committed to.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:43 am to
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What is your issue?


by all accounts Fowler told the LSU staff that nothing had changed and he was solid

that is my issue

it's pretty clear to anyone that follows recruiting that Strong was telling him, just like the FSU/Manuel scenario, to tell LSU that he was solid and to flip on NSD to surprise the coaches

its rubs me wrong

how this doesn't make sense to you, makes no sense to me
Posted by sms151t
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:47 am to
Well I do not follow recruiting and hate it, as I hated it when I worked in CFB.

But from the article I took as Strong just told his kids not to commit, at least publicly. There is no issue the kids can commit or whatever. I do not like the idea of recruits going somewhere but a coach leaves and being stuck.
Posted by BeYou
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:47 am to
Strong can recruit as well as he wants but if he can't develop players then Texas football will remain at .500

Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:48 am to
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But from the article I took as Strong just told his kids not to commit, at least publicly.


right

and uncommitted recruits, thats fine

but telling a recruit that is committed elsewhere to lie to the coaching staff and tell them he is solid is the issue
Posted by Grandioso
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:48 am to
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BeatYou



Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:49 am to
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His issue is that is a scholarship that could have gone to another kid.


Bingo. Total bitch tactic by Strong because it does affect other kids.

If you're coaching Texas, you should not need to use cheap ploys to gain attention to your recruiting. But he is a crap coach so...
Posted by theOG
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:52 am to
quote:

right

and uncommitted recruits, thats fine

but telling a recruit that is committed elsewhere to lie to the coaching staff and tell them he is solid is the issue


what?

recruiting doesn't just stop once a kid commits to a school. like he said, he didn't want other schools to be able to attack the program specifically. it was a genius move in this instance.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:54 am to
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recruiting doesn't just stop once a kid commits to a school


I'm aware

quote:

he didn't want other schools to be able to attack the program specifically


I get why the coaches do it

My issue is with the kids/parents signing off on lying to another staff that has been nothing but good to you

I'm just saying that I couldn't do it, nor would I want my kid to do it
Posted by theOG
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:55 am to
do you think its dishonorable for a coach to continue to recruit a kid that is already committed to another school?
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:55 am to
No...

Posted by RB10
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 11:56 am to
I was saying i thought Strong was doing something like this yesterday. I don't think his purpose was to screw over other programs, but to have a big NSD.

His arse is firmly on the hotseat and he knew going from #30 to top 10 in recruiting would help, but what's better than doing it over time? Doing it all in one day, practically.

I think he told guys not to commit to UT until signing day so they could look like the big winner jumping up over 20 spots.

Posted by H-Town Tiger
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:01 pm to
quote:

what?

recruiting doesn't just stop once a kid commits to a school. like he said, he didn't want other schools to be able to attack the program specifically. it was a genius move in this instance.


you guys are missing the point, Erick Fowler verbally committed to LSU last June, since he was clearly debating which school to attend he should have verbally DECOMMITTED from LSU (really a while ago) but at the very least last week he could have told the coaches he was thinking about it and not "I Solid to LSU), instead he quietly changed his twitter profile and scheduled a signing ceremony 20 minutes from the UT campus. It was obvious he was flippin, but common courtesy should dictate maybe a call to LSU to say, I'm staying home. Now, if Strong told him not to change his status that's a huge bitch move. He could have dropped his committment and it would not have affected UT at all. I don't think anyone else was really pushing him except UT and LSU and LSU was still recruiting him just as hard as they would have if he was uncommitted.
Posted by Grandioso
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Posted on 2/4/16 at 12:01 pm to
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His arse is firmly on the hotseat and he knew going from #30 to top 10 in recruiting would help, but what's better than doing it over time? Doing it all in one day, practically.

I think he told guys not to commit to UT until signing day so they could look like the big winner jumping up over 20 spots


Maybe so. I didn't see it coming and it was one hell of a surprise. I knew we were in the mix on some kids, but you never really can tell what they'll do. It was awesome and an exciting day for sure.
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