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re: Tallahassee detective warned victim about pursuing case against Winston

Posted on 11/20/13 at 6:32 pm to
Posted by massiveattack
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 6:32 pm to
Posted by ReauxlTide222
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 6:35 pm to
Damn this could be a mess. Winston is probably innocent as hell and still might get fricked in all this. What the hell was the TPD thinking? If...IF these things are true those people need to pay. What idiots.

Just to add, I'm 6' 5'. AT LEAST once a week some girl says "omg you're so tall. Do you play basketball? You're like(then I get ridiculous range from 6' 2' to 6' 8') feet tall." Girls just don't have a knack for this kind if thing. I think her initial description is of minor importance.

Do girls that lie about rape usually get a rape kit done and all those things? I figured if they know they're lying they wouldn't. But of course she could have let Winston spray guts with the intent of screwing him over. Hell we don't know anything. The accusations of the PD are pretty damning though for them.
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 6:38 pm to
Yea i feel the exact same way ReauxlTide222... we have no idea what happened. He could be innocent, he could be guilty. All I know is that the actions, or the lack of, by the TPD and the Detective makes matters much worse and makes it look like something sketchy indeed happened. Who knows though?? We will find out when we find out.
Posted by SeeeeK
some where
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 6:41 pm to
has the hackers got involved yet?

i know they frown on rape cases being over looked for sports people.
Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
37274 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 6:44 pm to
quote:

What if it comes out that the girl is a psychopath and Jameis Winston was able to corroborate a story with the police that proves his innocence so the police dropped it.


According to JW's lawyer, the cops have never spoken to JW about it. Almost a year after the girl filed a report and claimed that he raped her. How is that in any way shape or form normal procedure for a detective that is investigating a rape case?
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83669 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 6:48 pm to
quote:

has the hackers got involved yet?


See? This could get so much uglier than needed. If I was in his shoes and knew I didn't do anything wrong id be shitting my pants and irate right now at the folks who took it in their own hands to help me. Cause they might have made this thing smell baaaaaad.
Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker
Member since Jun 2008
15520 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 6:51 pm to
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then I get ridiculous range from 6' 2' to 6' 8') feet tall.


And sometimes 5'10" or 5'9" too right?
Posted by East Coast Band
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 6:53 pm to
Always look at what happens immediately after any crime occurs. A lot can be inferred by actions, both for or against a suspect.
Posted by massiveattack
CharLIT/Chapel Chill
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 6:54 pm to
The height thing is such a weak argument at this point.
Posted by Majin Buu
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 7:06 pm to
It should be no surprise that something potentially got covered up by the local authorities in a place with a major football program.
Posted by KosmoCramer
Member since Dec 2007
76561 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 7:15 pm to
quote:

The height thing is such a weak argument at this point.


I thought it came out that the height was the height of the roommate that was the witness?
Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker
Member since Jun 2008
15520 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 7:28 pm to
What about the argument that two witnesses have submitted affidavits (one has since been interviewed) that are expected to clear Winston of any wrong doing?
Posted by SaintCajun
Pacific Northwest
Member since Apr 2012
4294 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 7:30 pm to
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refused to go and collect a DNA sample from Winston


Getting DNA from somebody is a little more complicated than saying, "hey this chick said you raped her, open you mouth for a DNA swab"
Posted by massiveattack
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Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 11/20/13 at 7:31 pm to
how about a link for the thread?
Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker
Member since Jun 2008
15520 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 7:37 pm to
quote:

The attorney for Florida State quarterback Jameis Winston asserted Thursday evening that he has two witnesses who can provide information to authorities that would likely clear the Heisman Trophy front-runner in an alleged December 2012 sexual assault.

Attorney Tim Jansen told FOX Sports that the two witnesses — one of whom was interviewed Thursday and one of whom is scheduled to talk to investigators on Friday — would provide “exculpatory” information to authorities.


LINK


quote:

Jansen told Fox Sports that he's supplied the state attorney's office with two witness affidavits providing “exculpatory” – or favorable to a suspect – information. Meggs confirms he's received the two affidavits.


LINK
This post was edited on 11/20/13 at 7:39 pm
Posted by alabamabuckeye
Member since Jun 2010
22206 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 7:37 pm to
nvm
This post was edited on 11/20/13 at 7:39 pm
Posted by massiveattack
CharLIT/Chapel Chill
Member since Oct 2010
11558 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 7:41 pm to
Like many other have asserted in the thread, my problem is not with Jameis (as none of us know what happened). My problem was with the TPD who clearly mishandled the whole situation.
Posted by KG5989
Das Boot
Member since Oct 2010
16324 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 7:43 pm to
Well of course Winston will have guys that are lined up to say he didnt do it. They had 8+ months to get their testimony / witnesses/ story straight. All due to the fact that the TPD notified Winstons lawyer of the claim against him and they gave him the complete police report, which they didnt do for the lady in question.

Im not saying Winston did or didnt do anything. Nobody has any clue what happened. All I know is that the TPD is fricked and the Detective should have been fired yesterday. What they did for Winston and his lawyer and what they failed to do for the girl is the biggest issue for me with this story so far.
Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker
Member since Jun 2008
15520 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 8:22 pm to
quote:

But Jansen rejected the notion that witnesses colluded or were influenced by their attorneys. He provided sworn statements last week to prosecutors by two witnesses that he said will exonerate Winston. The witnesses, along with the victim of the alleged incident, are being interviewed by investigators with Meggs' office. A decision on whether or not to charge Winston is expected in the coming weeks.

"In December 2012 the witnesses were available, and in February law enforcement chose not to interview them," Jansen said. "Their story has not changed."



LINK



Look, I'm sure you are excited by the prospect of possibly having the next great sexual assaulter under center for LSU, but there is more to this story than just the victim's side.
Posted by detmut
Jesuit 81 Metairie
Member since Sep 2011
2304 posts
Posted on 11/20/13 at 8:25 pm to
quote:

Damn this could be a mess. Winston is probably innocent as hell and still might get fricked in all this. What the hell was the TPD thinking? If...IF these things are true those people need to pay. What idiots.

Just to add, I'm 6' 5'. AT LEAST once a week some girl says "omg you're so tall. Do you play basketball? You're like(then I get ridiculous range from 6' 2' to 6' 8') feet tall." Girls just don't have a knack for this kind if thing. I think her initial description is of minor importance.

Do girls that lie about rape usually get a rape kit done and all those things? I figured if they know they're lying they wouldn't. But of course she could have let Winston spray guts with the intent of screwing him over. Hell we don't know anything. The accusations of the PD are pretty damning though for them.



if they are Crystal Gail Mangum, they would.
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