re: Tallahassee detective warned victim about pursuing case against Winston

There's a difference between two hours and two weeks. Don't act like facts are sooo important and a substantial change to the facts means nothing.

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There's a difference between two hours and two weeks. Don't act like facts are sooo important and a substantial change to the facts means nothing.

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Oh im not acting like it means nothing. I dont even know where someone got the she IDed him 2 hours after info from. But it does take time for someone to ID another person. Especially in the town of 200,000 people and a major university where there is another 40,000 people. Hell some times they cant even get an ID on the person.

All I was saying was it wasnt like she said she was raped or assaulted, waited 8+ months and saw Winston on TV and they said he was who raped / assaulted her. She still IDed him before he ever took a single snap of football for FSU. Thats all I was saying.

Im not for or against Winston or the girl in this case. We dont know if he did or didnt do the things the girl accused him of. All I can tell from whats been released is that this Detective is a dirt bag and what he and the TPD did makes it look like he was covering up for Winston and sweeping this case under the rug. Again, we dont know if Winston did or didnt do these things. Regardless, the actions of T.P.D and this Detective make it look way worse and it makes 1 think that Winston did in fact do something sketchy/illegal. Not by what the accuser said or what the media says and all that, but by the actions of the Law Enforcement. Thats what irks me the most so far in this situation.

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The girl filed a police report and claimed that JW raped her and his roommate witnessed it. The cops need to do their damn job and at least question the two of them. If it was any regular joe the cops would be all over him.

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See, this is where i disagree. I do not necessarily believe the notion that the cops covered anything up. This isnt the good ole days where cops protected football players, this is modern day where every barney fife would love the opportunity to "bust a punk arse athlete who thinks he is better than me" At least thats how BR is, which is a similar town to Tallahassee. Now in towns like Tuscaloosa you can run over students with cars and choke your girlfriends and it all goes away. J/K Kinda

How do you disagree with that?

Lets just say its not a star or celebrity. A girl calls the cops and says she was sexually assaulted / raped by someone. Gets a rape kit done and blood tests done. Then she IDs him a few weeks later. Do you think the cops would just not investigate it or not pass it up to their superiors?? No. They would be all over that.

The TPD and Detective blatantly ignored protocol when it comes to a case like this. They didnt pass it up to their superiors like they are supposed to. They didnt sent a copy of the police report to the girls legal team / family. But they sent it to FSUs lawyer, who just happens to be the lawyer for the football team. And then they notifited the lawyer for FSU and Winston about the accusation and case, but didnt tell the girl or her legal team that they did notify them. Which they are supposed to do. The girl thought that Winston had no idea that she went to the police and that they were building a case against him privately. Instead, they told Winston and his lawyer about it and gave them 8+months to gather witness, testimony, and get their story straight and did not investigate him or build a case against him.

And yea in BR cops will arrest players. but that doesnt mean they will in every city.

Please read the bullets in this on the 2nd page. Lists everything the TPD didnt do. LINK

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How do you disagree with that?

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Because we are only hearing one sides story right now. What if it comes out that the girl is a psychopath and Jameis Winston was able to corroborate a story with the police that proves his innocence so the police dropped it. I'm not saying that it is a definite the cops didnt cover something up. But how about we wait and let this play out before we claim the cops were covering for a football player

Yea if it comes out that the girl is a nutter and did this just to get $$$$ or fame and all that I agree with you.

But, the only way to prove Winston is innocent or guilty is by doing an INVESTIGATION.

Im asking how can you disagree that the TPD covered up or failed to do their job? Not if hes innocent or guilty.

The PD just flat out didnt do an investigation and just acted like nothing was filed or happened. Yet they notified Winstons attorney and gave them the full report and all that. Yet didnt give the accusers legal team the same info or notified them that Winson and his team know and are working on his defense and all that. And they still didnt investigate it.

Cover up or not, the TPD just flat out did not investigate it and failed to do a lot of other things. They didnt do their job. And the TPD Detective is the front man for failing to do his duty.

And Im not for or against Winston or saying he did or didnt do whatever. But the actions of the TPD certainly makes the case a lot worse and leads 1 to thinking Winston did something. Just because of the actions of the TPD. By not doing their job with investigating makes it seem like they were just sweeping it under the rug. And then notifying Winstons attorney about the case and claim, but not telling the girls legal team that they indeed did tell them, and then giving Winstons attorney all the info, yet withholding some of that info to the girls legal team certainly looks like they chose a side.

I mean the actions of the TPD and Detective could be used AGAINST Winston. All they did was make it look like Winston indeed did something sketchy or illegal.

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At least thats how BR is, which is a similar town to Tallahassee. Now in towns like Tuscaloosa you can run over students with cars and choke your girlfriends and it all goes away.

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And this is where you are wrong. I grew up in Tallahassee.

It's the biggest "small town" EVER.

I posted this sentiment here when this story broke, TPD and the Leon County Sheriff's Department - I have an immediate family member that consults with both - have, over the years, covered up so much shite for FSU that it would make most people's heads spin.

I don't know how it is with Jimbo, but every patrol officer and detective knew how to get in touch with Bowden and every coach on the football, basketball, and baseball staffs.

Deion Sanders saw the backseat of many a patrol car back in the day. That shite was never in the Tallahassee Democrat or on WCTV.

She had a rape kit done, correct?

The lack of DNA evidence is due to the fact that the TPD didnt do any form of investigations. The lead Detective did not interrogate Winston or his room mate who is supposedly a witness. And refused to go and collect a DNA sample from Winston. His reason? Because it would alert Winston that he was a suspect and it would make the matter go public. The girl IDed him a week or 2 after the event occured, already making Winston a suspect. And if you dont want someone to know that they are the suspect when they are, thats if you are investigating it and building a case against that person before you collect the DNA. Yet the TPD and Detective were not doing any type of investigation what so ever. And even after the girl IDed Winston a week or 2 after the even occurred, Winstons name was still not on the suspect list.

They did perform a rape kit on the victim... so im guessing the DNA evidence would be on fill somewhere??