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Posted on 4/26/24 at 7:59 am to
Posted by Jon Ham
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 7:59 am to
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Bowers is awesome

But he wasn’t a freak in terms of actually measurements and testing.


6’4, 240 lbs, 4.5. The average forty for a tight end in the 2023 NFL Draft was 4.75.

How many guys can legitimately play RB, TE, and WR at the NFL level?
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:01 am to
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How many guys can legitimately play RB, TE, and WR at the NFL level?


Idk. But I know Brock Bowers isn’t in that category
Posted by Jon Ham
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:03 am to
Who would you say could legitimately play RB, TE, and WR better than Bowers?
Posted by wildtigercat93
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:06 am to
That’s where you’re mistaken, I wouldn’t say anyone because it’s not something that make sense in reality
This post was edited on 4/26/24 at 8:07 am
Posted by whatiknowsofar
hm?
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:08 am to
I'm convinced sean Payton just wants to get fired.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:09 am to
Mel said he didn’t like Dallas Turner all that much bc of his sack production.

Mfer had 8.5 sacks his freshman year and 10 his junior year.

And Golding had him dropping in coverage and never really put him and Will Anderson in consistent position to load up on sacks(which they did anyways). And he seems EXCELLENT against the run with ridiculous feel for it. And he’s very willing to get in there and defend against it.

Just seemed like a woefully lazy take for an early first round pick that came from a high profile college. AND the guy was a bit chubby and soft coming into Alabama and seems to be peaking physically with some more room to grow. And already dominated the combine.

Just seemed like a wtf take from Mel.
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:10 am to
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I wouldn’t say anyone because it’s not something that make sense in reality


It doesn’t make sense because it would take a freakish athlete with a particular set of skills to even consider it. Someone like Bowers.

Point made.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:11 am to
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But I know Brock Bowers isn’t in that category

I dunno about that
Posted by Jon Ham
Member since Jun 2011
28587 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:17 am to
Mike Alstott was 6’1 and ran a 4.6+ 40.

Bowers’ 40 time is similar to Peyton Hillis who was like the inverse of Bowers - a RB with receiving skills. Hillis put up over 1,000 rushing yard in one season.

But no, no way could Bowers play RB!

Yeah, we’ve seen Bowers exhibit elite ball skills and pull away from secondaries with his YAC, but no way could he play WR! No, he can only play TE who sometimes lines up like a WR.

LOL
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:20 am to
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I personally want Coleman. But I just think they are going Mitchell.



There’s a zero chance the Bills passed on a WR that they liked above the remaining WRs

They likely had Worthy and Mitchell in the same tier. You have to think Carolina tipped them off to who they were targeting with the pick

The Bills are going to be in cap hell with Allen’s contract sooner than later and they need as many day 2 and early day 3 picks that they can muster.

I’m hoping they find a way to get Aiyuk or Higgins in a trade. Higgins doesn’t seem likely with the Bengals not going WR.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37502 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:21 am to
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Um, the Panthers drafted Legette not the Bills. OP made an error


I feel horrible for Legette. Do the panthers have the O Line to allow Young to develop?

Also, if the bulls get McConkey and the other receiver from UTx, the picks will be nice.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37502 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:24 am to
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Coleman never looked slow against LSU….


To be fair, our defense made everyone look fast.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37502 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:26 am to
The fact that his own teammate sent that is awesome.
Posted by ZenFNmaster
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2007
2474 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:26 am to
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The Saints select an offensive lineman. I hope that didn't kill any suspense


They selected an obscure offensive lineman hardly anyone has heard of who they probably could have gotten in the third round ... again.
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:33 am to
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I personally want Coleman. But I just think they are going Mitchell Coleman never looked slow against LSU….
Is there concern that he’s never produced a ton in college even though he looks like a total mismatch for anyone at that level?
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:33 am to
For teams with depleted rosters in specific situations its not as important as getting more picks, no.

Why did the Panthers trade up a spot for a guy they likely get anyway? Couldn't be because they wanted an extra year of control... no way.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:34 am to
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Is there concern that he’s never produced a ton in college even though he looks like a total mismatch for anyone at that level?



He didn't really separate well in college either, which usually doesn't translate.
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
112327 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:35 am to
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Why did the Panthers trade up a spot for a guy they likely get anyway? Couldn't be because they wanted an extra year of control... no way.


More likely because the Pats were also reportedly trying to trade up for Leggette in front of them

Teams trade up for players, not fifth year options
Posted by ReauxlTide222
St. Petersburg
Member since Nov 2010
83462 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:36 am to
quote:

They were able to get a pick 38 spots better
Don’t they give up most of those spots with what they sent to KC in the 2025 draft?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37502 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:37 am to
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who they probably could have gotten in the third round


PFF had him at 14 in their prospect rankings
Fox had him at 15
CBS had him at 12
Pro Football Network at 11

Basically, everywhere I looked had him ranked as a top 15 prospect prior to the draft. Just because you nor I had never heard of him before last night doesn’t mean he wasn’t really good.

I know OSU has had stellar rushing attacks the last 2 seasons and when listening to CFB podcasts the hosts and analysts talk about how solid and physical their O Line has been.
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