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re: Steven Jackson and his place in NFL History

Posted on 8/22/12 at 11:05 pm to
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
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Posted on 8/22/12 at 11:05 pm to
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So you use 7 seasons to determine he went over 9k.... take out Jacksons rookie season and he has 11234 total yards in 7 seasons with 56 touchdowns


03-08 is 6 seasons
Posted by DrVinnyBoombatz
Lubbock
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/22/12 at 11:07 pm to
And what happened when Westbrook got a lot of touches? He broke down. Same thing with Holmes. It's what you value more, 3-4 great years or 9+ good years from a RB. Personally, I think 9+ years of good consistency is more impressive. If we are going by individual seasons, than you have a case that Westbrook or Holmes is a lot more impressive than Jackson.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 8/22/12 at 11:08 pm to
So remove his second season you still have 9868 total yards and 46 touchdowns

This post was edited on 8/22/12 at 11:10 pm
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18986 posts
Posted on 8/22/12 at 11:11 pm to
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So, with Rickey Williams they become a 5-11 team?


When did the Dolphins go 5-11
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 8/22/12 at 11:17 pm to
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And what happened when Westbrook got a lot of touches? He broke down.


Westbrook was 30 years old when he broke down, you could say that about 90% of all great runningbacks

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So remove his second season you still have 9868 total yards and 46 touchdowns


So Jackson had about 800 more yards and 18 LESS TD on about 400 more touches
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 8/22/12 at 11:17 pm to
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Just in the last 10 years i would put

Ladainian Tomlinson
Chris Johnson
Preist Holmes
Ricky Williams
Jamal Lewis
Adrian Peterson
Brian Westbrook
Arian Foster
Ray Rice
Maurice Drew
Edgerrin James
Corey Dillion
Tiki Barber
Shaun Alexander
Clinton Portis

all ahead of Jackson


No.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18986 posts
Posted on 8/22/12 at 11:18 pm to
Foster already has 2 years better than Jackson's best season
Posted by Jcorye1
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/22/12 at 11:22 pm to
And he's a really weird/moody guy who could frick it all up tomorrow.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36433 posts
Posted on 8/23/12 at 12:03 am to
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Foster already has 2 years better than Jackson's best season



um he has one (2010). and you're comparing apples to oranges based off of Foster's 2 significant seasons with Jackson's 7 straight seasons of 1000+ yards
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 12:03 am to
Jackson's longevity on top of his production has to count for something. Priest Holmes was great for a short stretch, otherwise was just a flash in the pan compared to Jackson. As were most of those guys.

speaking of great OL's, Holmes' OL in Kansas City was pretty great. Waters, Roaf, Will Shields. John Tait.
Posted by OneMoreTime
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 12:05 am to
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I would have liked to have seen him in his prime on a good team though. He should have gotten the hell out of St Louis

Definitely. He would've put up some big time numbers, imo.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18986 posts
Posted on 8/23/12 at 12:08 am to
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um he has one (2010). and you're comparing apples to oranges based off of Foster's 2 significant seasons with Jackson's 7 straight seasons of 1000+ yards


Foster last year had 1800 yards and 12 tds in 13 games, thats at least equal with Jacksons best season(2006)
This post was edited on 8/23/12 at 12:11 am
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 12:08 am to
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I would have liked to have seen him in his prime on a good team though. He should have gotten the hell out of St Louis



put him behind the lines that Priest Holmes, Shaun Alexander or Brian Westbrook ran behind and he would be an all time great.
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36433 posts
Posted on 8/23/12 at 12:12 am to
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quote:
um he has one (2010). and you're comparing apples to oranges based off of Foster's 2 significant seasons with Jackson's 7 straight seasons of 1000+ yards


Foster last year had 1800 yards and 12 tds in 13 games, thats at least equal with Jacksons best season(2006)


I could be lost but I'm looking at Foster's stats and am not finding any season with those numbers

ETAL LINK
This post was edited on 8/23/12 at 12:14 am
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 12:14 am to
He would be up there if he didn't have to carry that shitty organization every year. He'd be incredible with a good oline

He's a top 20 talent to ever play rb IMO.
This post was edited on 8/23/12 at 12:17 am
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18986 posts
Posted on 8/23/12 at 12:14 am to
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I could be lost but I'm looking at Foster's stats and am not finding any season with those numbers


2011
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36433 posts
Posted on 8/23/12 at 12:16 am to
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quote:

I could be lost but I'm looking at Foster's stats and am not finding any season with those numbers


2011


are you combining receiving yards/tds?
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 8/23/12 at 12:17 am to
1800 yards from scrimmage.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
18986 posts
Posted on 8/23/12 at 12:17 am to
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are you combining receiving yards/tds?


of course
Posted by REG861
Ocelot, Iowa
Member since Oct 2011
36433 posts
Posted on 8/23/12 at 12:21 am to
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quote:
are you combining receiving yards/tds?


of course



My bad, I thought we were talking straight rushing, but I will direct you to Jacksons monster 2006 season. LINK
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