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re: Sterling going for the knock out on NBA

Posted on 6/13/14 at 1:00 pm to
Posted by massiveattack
CharLIT/Chapel Chill
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 6/13/14 at 1:00 pm to
I want to see what happens beginning next year if he still owns it...players have the balls to boycott playing for him?

So many questions
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421945 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 1:02 pm to
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1. Classy legal strategy. Dig up irrelevant dirt (95% I admissible in a legal proceeding.

to be fair, this information is likely for something other than a legal proceeding. what's good for the goose is good for the gander. that's basically what cuban warned the owners about when this all started

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2. How would this "crush" the NBA?

how many owners would have to face similar scrutiny before you'd call it a crisis? 1 more? 5 more? 10 more?

Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4396 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 1:03 pm to
Because he's the only owner who actually broke his contract. It isn't against the league's constitution to make racist remarks, but it is to make remarks that have an adverse affect on the league. No one else has made remarks that have caused sponsors to threaten to leave.
Posted by massiveattack
CharLIT/Chapel Chill
Member since Oct 2010
11554 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 1:06 pm to
Well we don't know that yet. Doesn't have to be just remarks does it? What if these investigators bring to light actions of other owners that cause sponsors to leave? Then what


Out of the 29 others, you know they'll be able to find at least 1 big skeleton.
This post was edited on 6/13/14 at 1:08 pm
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41171 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 1:06 pm to
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No one else has made remarks that have caused sponsors to threaten to leave.




Are you sure? Or have the statements just not been made public yet?
Posted by SPEEDY
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Member since Dec 2003
83356 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 1:07 pm to
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The NBA's lawyers will simply file motions limiting discovery. The dirt you think is going to be exposed is irrelevant to the case.



Like the illegal recordings the NBA used against Sterling?

And there isn't a legal motion the NBA lawyers can file that will stop Sterling from publicly exposing the owners as the hypocrites we all know they are.
This post was edited on 6/13/14 at 1:08 pm
Posted by DrSteveBrule
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
12006 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 1:08 pm to
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Mark Cuban knew this was going to happen.


Mark Cuban isn't going to say it directly publicly, but he sure has implied it many times, he's secretly glad this is happening and to be honest with you I would be too.

Not saying Mark Cuban is a racist or anything, but he understands that getting shite taken from you because of things you say in private conversations is complete and utter bullshite.
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4396 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 1:12 pm to
The very fact that we don't know about any other statements proves the point.

If Sterling's PIs find out that an owner made remarks, those remarks are made public, and there is a huge uproar over the remarks then the NBA could then get rid of that owner. But the PIs will have to be the ones to find it because right now the fact that other owners may have made statements that no one (till this point) gives a shite about is completely irrelevant to the case.
Posted by SPEEDY
2005 Tiger Smack Poster of the Year
Member since Dec 2003
83356 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 1:14 pm to
Yeah, Cuban has made the glass house analogy a few times in reference to this, but he mentioned black hoodies, so we can no longer give validity to his point of view because he is obviously a racist
Posted by FourThinInches
Dallas
Member since Apr 2012
1302 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 1:15 pm to
Dirt is inadmissible in court just like sterling's private conversation would be yet you think he deserves his team taken away? It's going to be hilarious reading about all the prostitution, lives ruined and more these other owners have done.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421945 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 1:15 pm to
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The very fact that we don't know about any other statements proves the point.

the only point proven is that the public doesn't know about these (hypothetical) statements. just like the public didn't know about sterling's until the day they were released publicly

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If Sterling's PIs find out that an owner made remarks, those remarks are made public, and there is a huge uproar over the remarks then the NBA could then get rid of that owner. But the PIs will have to be the ones to find it


uh, no shite

that's why they were hired
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4396 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 1:15 pm to
The NBA didn't record and release the tapes of Sterling, a third party did. All the NBA cares about is protecting its image and it's finances. Once there was a large backlash against Sterling then there was a contractual violation.

And the NBA can certainly file motions to prevent Sterling from using the legal discovery process to fish for dirt on the other owners.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
421945 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 1:16 pm to
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And the NBA can certainly file motions to prevent Sterling from using the legal discovery process to fish for dirt on the other owners.

he's not using discovery. he's using his own investigators
Posted by DrSteveBrule
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
12006 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 1:16 pm to
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Dirt is inadmissible in court just like sterling's private conversation would be yet you think he deserves his team taken away? It's going to be hilarious reading about all the prostitution, lives ruined and more these other owners have done.


Let's start digging into the players' private lives too, especially the ones that have been so critical all along.

Well nevermind, they are black so it wouldn't matter.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 1:18 pm to
With those kind of resources, if just put an incredible bounty on the owners, for racist, homophobic, or some kind of "insensitive" remarks. Or just any humiliatin information that would damage the league. He has little time so money isn't the issue.
Posted by massiveattack
CharLIT/Chapel Chill
Member since Oct 2010
11554 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 1:20 pm to
Exactly!
Posted by VOLhalla
Knoxville
Member since Feb 2011
4396 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 1:20 pm to
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the only point proven is that the public doesn't know about these (hypothetical) statements. just like the public didn't know about sterling's until the day they were released publicly


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uh, no shite


I don't think you understand. The point being made is that Sterling cannot use legal discovery to uncover dirt on other owners because it is completely irrelevant. The fact that other owners may have said things in the past but those statements are not had an adverse impact on the league. That's the crux of the issue.
Posted by Tactical1
Denham Springs
Member since May 2010
27104 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 1:21 pm to
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he will crush the NBA


Posted by JohnnyKilroy
Cajun Navy Vice Admiral
Member since Oct 2012
35289 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 1:22 pm to
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They will get close to 4000 witnesses, just to waste the courts time,


This is NOT a good way to "knock out" your opponent in court.
Posted by Othello
the Neptonian Steel Mines
Member since Aug 2013
22925 posts
Posted on 6/13/14 at 1:22 pm to
In the end the NBA will wish they had handled this message thing differently instead of the knee jerk reaction they had.
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