re: Some form of collusion in the Collins Draft Situation??

Excuse me? You complain about collusion now you say they did him a favor?

So breaking a federal labor law is doing a potential employee a favor?


They do him a favor by drafting him. You do understand the NFLPA is not going to allow him to sign a huge money contract? Their job is to protect players and drafted players.

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complain about collusion now you say they did him a favor?

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Not complaining about. Just saying I think something was going on behind the scenes as to why he wasn't drafted on the last day of the draft.

Not sure why you are not understanding how the teams did him a favor by not drafting him in the 7th. UDFA can sign wherever they want and he may have some leverage on what kind of contract they sign.

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NFL teams did him a favor NOT calling his bluff and selecting him in the 7th.


We'll see.

If he goes UDFA and goes to the NFL getting paid pennies, he could be a bust or have a career threatening injury that could affect his future stock in future contracts.

Having gotten drafted in the 7th, refused to sign a contract, enter next year's draft and be a possible first round pick, Many million would have been instantly guaranteed.

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If he wanted to go back into the 2016 draft then he would NOT have put out the draft ultimatum. He wanted to go the UDFA route and the NFL teams obliged.

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You know for sure??? He has a $400k job lined up already for next year. It's worth calling his bluff for an impact starter.

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His agent said so, and it makes a lot of sense to not sign.

Everyone says it is all about that second contract, but there are no guarantees of a second contract. He would make significantly more money, and elite players have been taken in the top 3 rounds with a year off (tyranny Matthieu, DGB)

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e would make significantly more money, and elite players have been taken in the top 3 rounds with a year off (tyranny Matthieu, DGB)

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TM7 and DGB were not eligible for NFL draft until the year they were included.

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NFL do this? And why would the teams agree to it?

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I answered this earlier. The NFL could have agreed Bc of the shitty timing of the incident.

NFL teams expect 1-3 rd guys to contribute right away so you cannot waste one on a guy who might not be able to play hence he wasn't picked on days 1 and 2. An NFL team can take "fliers" on late round guys bc they aren't expecting anything in return other then maybe a end of the roster/ practice squad guy.
IMO, calling Collins bluff about playing would be worth a late pick even if it was just to make sure one of your rivals didn't get him. Hell if he really wanted to enter the 2016 draft then he should have kept his mouth shut bc someone would have drafted him late otherwise.

You haven't given any reasoning why an NFL team would bow down to the NFL.

Surely you're not hanging your collusion hat on "because everyone felt sorry for him."

ETA: If you're somehow unclear as to my line of questioning, this is what I'm addressing.

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NFL instructed teams not to draft him in rds 4-7 bc at his talent level it would be better for him to go the UDFA route (compromise between player and league).

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Why would NFL teams agree to that?

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Not sure why you are not understanding how the teams did him a favor by not drafting him in the 7th. UDFA can sign wherever they want and he may have some leverage on what kind of contract they sign


You are completely blind or ignorant to the Collective Bargaining agreement, the Wage scale, and the NFLPA. The NFLPA will not allow Collins to get first round-third round money as it will destroy the draft and everything they have fought for the last 30 years.

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Who said he is getting 1st rd $? This is all about picking his team and getting to his 2nd contract as soon as possible.

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If he wanted to go back into the 2016 draft then he would NOT have put out the draft ultimatum.

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You're assuming he had intelligent agents.