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Some form of collusion in the Collins Draft Situation??
Posted on 5/7/15 at 7:38 am
Posted on 5/7/15 at 7:38 am
IMO, There had to be some form of collusion on this. Either the NFL told the teams not to draft him for PR reasons
OR
NFL instructed teams not to draft him in rds 4-7 bc at his talent level it would be better for him to go the UDFA route (compromise between player and league).
Many 7th round guys don't even make the team so you would think that a 1st rd talent/immediate NFL starter would be worth the PR risk or risk that Collins would not sign/found guilty
OR
NFL instructed teams not to draft him in rds 4-7 bc at his talent level it would be better for him to go the UDFA route (compromise between player and league).
Many 7th round guys don't even make the team so you would think that a 1st rd talent/immediate NFL starter would be worth the PR risk or risk that Collins would not sign/found guilty
This post was edited on 5/7/15 at 8:05 am
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Posted on 5/7/15 at 7:43 am to STEVED00
It does seem strange. Your point would be better served with a case study of previous draft picks that had criminal issues going on during the time of the draft.
I mean, didn't a CB out of Washington get drafted after having legal trouble and being kicked off the team?
Obviously not the same as a potential murder charge, but that kid went in the 1st round. Collins wasn't even a suspect and dropped out of the entire draft.
I mean, didn't a CB out of Washington get drafted after having legal trouble and being kicked off the team?
Obviously not the same as a potential murder charge, but that kid went in the 1st round. Collins wasn't even a suspect and dropped out of the entire draft.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 7:43 am to STEVED00
No way the commissioner would endorse that
Posted on 5/7/15 at 7:44 am to STEVED00
Collins fricked himself over. He made it clear he wouldn't sign with any team that drafted him in the 4th or later, and lo and behold, he wasn't drafted.
No collusion, just awful advice and decisions.
No collusion, just awful advice and decisions.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 7:45 am to STEVED00
HAD to be something. I agree, I would have grabbed him quick in the 7th round if he was still there. Less of a gamble he is involved with crime than there is of a 7th rounder making the team.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 7:48 am to STEVED00
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Some form of collusion in a the Collins Draft Situation
I read this in Super Mario's voice.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 7:49 am to STEVED00
Roger Goodell being Roger Goodell. Piece of shite
Posted on 5/7/15 at 7:57 am to STEVED00
Or his agent straight up said don't draft him because he won't sign. It's pretty simple.
I have a feeling I'm going to hear a lot of people saying:
About the whole situation which is very short sighted. Draft teams took him off their board completely because of the pending investigation..end of story. No team was taking a chance on him with the current climate in the NFL.
I have a feeling I'm going to hear a lot of people saying:
quote:
Collins wasn't even a suspect and dropped out of the entire draft.
About the whole situation which is very short sighted. Draft teams took him off their board completely because of the pending investigation..end of story. No team was taking a chance on him with the current climate in the NFL.
This post was edited on 5/7/15 at 8:00 am
Posted on 5/7/15 at 8:04 am to slackster
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Collins fricked himself over. He made it clear he wouldn't sign with any team that drafted him in the 4th or later, and lo and behold, he wasn't drafted.
A 7th pick for an immediate impact starter is worth calling his bluff.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 8:05 am to STEVED00
This isn't difficult:
-Collins didn't get drafted Rd 1-3 because no one wanted to risk a high pick
-He didn't get drafted 4-7 because he told everyone he wouldn't sign
Not everything is a conspiracy.
-Collins didn't get drafted Rd 1-3 because no one wanted to risk a high pick
-He didn't get drafted 4-7 because he told everyone he wouldn't sign
Not everything is a conspiracy.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 8:08 am to Brettesaurus Rex
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Or his agent straight up said don't draft him because he won't sign. It's pretty simple.
I have a feeling I'm going to hear a lot of people saying:
quote:
Collins wasn't even a suspect and dropped out of the entire draft.
About the whole situation which is very short sighted. Draft teams took him off their board completely because of the pending investigation..end of story. No team was taking a chance on him with the current climate in the NFL.
Calling his bluff would still be worth a 7th rd pick though. I think there could have been an agreement btwn NFL teams and Collins that he wouldn't be pick in rds 4-7 per his request. A gentleman's agreement so to speak.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 8:10 am to brgfather129
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-He didn't get drafted 4-7 because he told everyone he wouldn't sign
Not everything is a conspiracy.
In this case, I am saying the NFL and Collins reached an off the record agreement not the draft him.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 8:11 am to STEVED00
Can you explain why the UDFA route is better?
Posted on 5/7/15 at 8:14 am to slackster
I kinda agree. Even with the "I won't sign after the 4th round talk", some team would take a chance on him. You don't make any in UDFA than you do as a 4th rounder so why would he be so against being drafted?
I actually disagree. I was listening to one scout and he was talking about how for the majority of players, if you're not drafted by the 4th/5th round, he thinks it's by far more beneficial to be an UDFA. It allows you to pick the correct fit, both from a system and a lockerroom presence, for yourself.
I thought it was interesting. Collins will be fine if/when he's cleared.
quote:
No collusion, just awful advice and decisions.
I actually disagree. I was listening to one scout and he was talking about how for the majority of players, if you're not drafted by the 4th/5th round, he thinks it's by far more beneficial to be an UDFA. It allows you to pick the correct fit, both from a system and a lockerroom presence, for yourself.
I thought it was interesting. Collins will be fine if/when he's cleared.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 8:19 am to STEVED00
quote:What's the point of that?
In this case, I am saying the NFL and Collins reached an off the record agreement not the draft him.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 8:19 am to slackster
quote:Was it really a bad decision though? Now he gets to pick the team he goes to...and I don't know about this part and could be wrong, but I assume he can get more money than if he were a late draft pick due to the slotting system, right?
Collins fricked himself over. He made it clear he wouldn't sign with any team that drafted him in the 4th or later, and lo and behold, he wasn't drafted.
No collusion, just awful advice and decisions.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 8:21 am to STEVED00
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Calling his bluff would still be worth a 7th rd pick though
Well, I don't disagree with you there...but I don't think teams wanted to take any chances regardless.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 8:21 am to STEVED00
quote:
In this case, I am saying the NFL and Collins reached an off the record agreement not the draft him.
Then collusion is the wrong word to use.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 8:23 am to shel311
quote:
quote: In this case, I am saying the NFL and Collins reached an off the record agreement not the draft him. What's the point of that?
$$ is not much different, he can pick his team, possibly quicker route to FA.
Posted on 5/7/15 at 8:24 am to shel311
Yea, he didn't frick himself over. The late rounds get the league minimum just like undrafted free agents. He maybe lost out on a small amount of signing bonus money, but he gained the ability to pick his team. That's worth the trade off.
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