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So much in coaching legacies lay in the balance for this CFP
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:38 am
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:38 am
The coaching legacies are the most interesting storyline of these playoffs for me.
If Saban wins, he will have 6 national titles and will be considered the best coach of all time by many
However
If Meyer wins, he will have 4 national titles at only 52 years old, an age in which Saban only had 1.
So Saban would go from best of all time, to not even the best current coach all in one breath.
Crazy thin line there
Then you also have Dabo, who at his age a win is huge for building his legacy going forward, just as a win legitimizes Peterson as an all timer as well.
If Saban wins, he will have 6 national titles and will be considered the best coach of all time by many
However
If Meyer wins, he will have 4 national titles at only 52 years old, an age in which Saban only had 1.
So Saban would go from best of all time, to not even the best current coach all in one breath.
Crazy thin line there
Then you also have Dabo, who at his age a win is huge for building his legacy going forward, just as a win legitimizes Peterson as an all timer as well.
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Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:39 am to lsupride87
Lol...Dabo and Meyer ain't winning.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:41 am to lsuhunt555
Huskies gonna shock the world
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:43 am to lsupride87
quote:Just like if LeBron would have lost to GSW in 7, he shouldn't have dropped to some completely different tier of greatness, Saban wouldn't stop being one of the greatest coaches along with Meyer.
If Meyer wins, he will have 4 national titles at only 52 years old, an age in which Saban only had 1. So Saban would go from best of all time, to not even the best current coach all in one breath.
It just seems flawed that one game can somehow change a legacy of hundreds of games and multiple championships drastically.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:43 am to buckeye_vol
quote:Where did I say that?
Saban wouldn't stop being one of the greatest coaches along with Meyer.
But if Meyer wins, he will be the considered the best current coach in college football by the majority, where as if Saban wins, he will be considered the best of all time by many.
So he would fall from best of all time, to second best current coach.
I think it is an interesting narrative shift
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 9:45 am
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:44 am to lsupride87
i already think Saban is the GOAT and Meyer is certainly top 5
it's really crazy to think about the coaching talent of my adult life (2001-present)
it's really crazy to think about the coaching talent of my adult life (2001-present)
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:45 am to lsupride87
quote:Well going from the greatest of all time to not even the best current coach seems exteme. He's one of the greatest win or lose--winning helps but losing doesn't negate it somehow, in my opinion.
Where did I say that?
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 9:46 am
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:45 am to lsupride87
quote:
So Saban would go from best of all time, to not even the best current coach all in one breath.
He would?
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:46 am to buckeye_vol
quote:Not when the other coach (Meyer), will be top 5 all time. So it is really like falling from 1 to 3 all time
Well going from the greatest of all time to not even the best current coach seems exteme
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:46 am to craigbiggio
quote:According to many, yes.
He would?
If Meyer wins, I would consider him better than Saban right now.
4 national championships, and 165-28(.854) all time at 52 years old
5 national championships, and 204-60-1(.769) all time at 65 years old
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 9:49 am
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:47 am to lsupride87
If OSU wins the Playoff and Meyer beats Saban in the process, you'll see a lot of people argue that Meyer is right there with Saban. I don't think Meyer is better but he'll certainly have an argument.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:48 am to lsupride87
quote:Well this is a more reasonable context.
Not when the other coach (Meyer), will be top 5 all time. So it is really like falling from 1 to 3 all time
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:51 am to FairhopeTider
quote:They are both all timers, but I think the nod would have to go to Meyer
If OSU wins the Playoff and Meyer beats Saban in the process, you'll see a lot of people argue that Meyer is right there with Saban. I don't think Meyer is better but he'll certainly have an argument.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:53 am to buckeye_vol
If Meyer beats Saban, Saban has a heart attack, leaves Alabama and goes to Oregon I could believe your argument. Otherwise I think it's pretty safe to say Saban > Meyer since he literally ran his arse out of the SEC.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:54 am to lsupride87
I am not sure why this has downvotes and so many people seem to take offense to it?
People are talking about Saban being the best ever, and winning his 6th will be a huge notch to but him over the top. If he wins this one, the media will go full on he is the best ever, and rightfully so.
Now, if Meyer wins, he will have only 1 less national championship at 13 years younger, and 2 out of the last 3 national championships and many will consider him better than Saban, and rightfully so.
It isnt really a controversial take at all.
People are talking about Saban being the best ever, and winning his 6th will be a huge notch to but him over the top. If he wins this one, the media will go full on he is the best ever, and rightfully so.
Now, if Meyer wins, he will have only 1 less national championship at 13 years younger, and 2 out of the last 3 national championships and many will consider him better than Saban, and rightfully so.
It isnt really a controversial take at all.
This post was edited on 12/5/16 at 9:55 am
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:55 am to JB Bama
quote:So even if at the end of their careers Meyer ends up with say 2 more national championships than Saban, would this still be your reasoning that Saban is better than Meyer?
Otherwise I think it's pretty safe to say Saban > Meyer since he literally ran his arse out of the SEC.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 9:57 am to JB Bama
quote:So if Meyer beats Saban, he will have 4 national titles to Saban's 5, while being 13 years younger
If Meyer beats Saban, Saban has a heart attack, leaves Alabama and goes to Oregon I could believe your argument. Otherwise I think it's pretty safe to say Saban > Meyer since he literally ran his arse out of the SEC.
He will also have a.854 win pct to Sabans .765 win pct
He will also be 3-2 vs Saban head to head
But because of some stupid myth about Saban running him out the conference, you wont concede he is better, or at least right with him?
Posted on 12/5/16 at 10:02 am to lsupride87
Meyer did kinda pussy out of Florida
Posted on 12/5/16 at 10:09 am to buckeye_vol
quote:
So even if at the end of their careers Meyer ends up with say 2 more national championships than Saban, would this still be your reasoning that Saban is better than Meyer?
It may not go down like this in the history books, but it's clear to many the Urban quit when the going got tough at Florida and timing was perfect for OSU. I think that should be reflected in his legacy. He's a great coach, no doubt.
Posted on 12/5/16 at 10:12 am to lsupride87
quote:
But because of some stupid myth about Saban running him out the conference, you wont concede he is better, or at least right with him?
Saban has run many coaches out of the SEC. Urban left voluntarily.
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