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So did the USGA basically say their Open Champ is a liar??

Posted on 6/19/16 at 9:48 pm
Posted by STEVED00
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Posted on 6/19/16 at 9:48 pm
DJ says he did not touch the ball. The replay does not show that he did (IMO replays more back up DJs claim) yet the USGA assesses the penalty because a reasonable assumption that he did.

This post was edited on 6/19/16 at 9:50 pm
Posted by Pepe Lepew
Looney tuned .....
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Posted on 6/19/16 at 9:50 pm to
It used to be a gentlemen's game
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 6/19/16 at 9:53 pm to
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It used to be a gentlemen's game


The USGA just looks like a bunch of elitist dicks with this ruling. Plus, why the frick would it take to the end of the round.
Posted by northLAgoomba
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Posted on 6/19/16 at 9:54 pm to
If he touched it or caused it to move, why did it roll backwards?
Posted by Cosmo
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Posted on 6/19/16 at 9:54 pm to
USGA didnt want a cokehead to win
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22380 posts
Posted on 6/19/16 at 9:56 pm to
Grounding his putter behind the ball could've made it move backward; however the replays clearly show that didn't happen.
Posted by TROLA
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Member since Apr 2004
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Posted on 6/19/16 at 9:59 pm to
I'll never understand the logic behind that ruling.. The ball went backwards and unless it was magnetized to his putter it wouldn't have done that while not even grounded.. They really deserve tremendous amounts of scorn for the ruling and their handling of the matter..
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22380 posts
Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:03 pm to
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I'll never understand the logic behind that ruling.. The ball went backwards and unless it was magnetized to his putter it wouldn't have done that while not even grounded.. They really deserve tremendous amounts of scorn for the ruling and their handling of the matter..



The little smug rules official was just on the Golf Channel. The ex pro analyst kept asking the rules geek if he had ever seen a ball move after a player took s practice stroke next to it. He would never answer the question. I swear the pro on the set was about to punch the rules guy in the face.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:21 pm to
The USGA lucked out today because DJ and Cavs won.

They are the true losers of the day.
This post was edited on 6/19/16 at 11:26 pm
Posted by Bad Medicine
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:37 pm to
frick them that was bullshite the way they handled that
Posted by nobigdeal69
baton rouge
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/19/16 at 11:59 pm to
I always thought that this ruling would come down to what the player says. it didn't seem like there was conclusive evidence to rule against him on this one, especially since he said he didn't cause the ball to move.
Posted by supatigah
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Member since Mar 2004
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:06 am to
I think they made the ruling because of the last birdie makes it irrelevant. If it would have resulted in a playoff I don't believe they make the ruling that they did

The USGA loves their petty "integrity of the game" stance
Posted by List Eater
Htown
Member since Apr 2005
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:08 am to
They only added the penalty because he won by multiple strokes.

That sit down with the rules guy was an absolute disaster for the PGA and Fox.
This post was edited on 6/20/16 at 12:09 am
Posted by TheRoarRestoredInBR
Member since Dec 2004
30291 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:09 am to
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They really deserve tremendous amounts of scorn for the ruling and their handling of the matter..


The Bear, Rory, Jordan, Ricky,etc..all letting them rightfully have it.

ETA. There was a great piece recently about the ball needing to be changed due to today's clubs balls and golfer conditioning. It specifically mentions DJ's ability to go 600+ yards in two swings, and amongst even smaller guys like Rory doing the same on the regular, and/or just going over tall trees without needing to use hook, draw, or punch shots, making a mockery of Par 5s. Thus, also wonder if the USGA weren't sorta "sitting out Draymond for Gm 5" with that non-ruling or ruling hanging in limbo down the stretch..

Just shitty to have been slow/indecisive on the ruling..makes USGA look hokey..and getting it possibly wrong to boot even with video?
This post was edited on 6/20/16 at 12:22 am
Posted by nobigdeal69
baton rouge
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:14 am to
quote:

They really deserve tremendous amounts of scorn for the ruling and their handling of the matter..

Posted by KarlMalonesFlipPhone
Member since Sep 2015
3848 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:20 am to
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The USGA loves their petty "integrity of the game" stance


If they truly care about the integrity of the game they would have taken DJ at his word.

Such a cluster frick of a decision. I really wish it would have blown up in their faces even more.
This post was edited on 6/20/16 at 12:21 am
Posted by nobigdeal69
baton rouge
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:38 am to
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If they truly care about the integrity of the game they would have taken DJ at his word.


Completely agree with this. It's always been up to the player to call it on themselves, like Shane Lowry did in round 2. I think this sets a precedent and gives a lot of power to the rules officials. I've never seen a penalty enforced like that.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
33492 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 12:54 am to
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The Bear, Rory, Jordan, Ricky,etc..all letting them rightfully have it.


This told me all I needed to know. When all these guys started to speak up about what a clusterfrick this was, it pretty much proved it in my mind.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22380 posts
Posted on 6/20/16 at 7:13 am to
The crap part is that this will get a pass since It happened the same night at the NBA finals.
Posted by double d
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Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 6/20/16 at 7:20 am to
DJ brought the rules official in at the time it happened. After discussing it the official ruled no penalty. That should have been the end of it. To tell him on the 12th tee you may or may not get a penalty had to frick his head up; he did hit some poor shots the next few holes before regrouping. If the penalty isn't assessed at the time, it should be over and done. USGA shite the bed big time and lost a lot of credibility. I doubt they call the penalty if he ended up leading by 1 shot.
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