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re: Since 1987 the Green Bay Packers have had 3 Starting qb's
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:38 am to tigerbait3488
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:38 am to tigerbait3488
I def would not worry about Magic Man, and just say 2 rock solid starting QBs from 91 till now.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:42 am to MadMaxwell
Steve young replacing Joe Montana
Way too early, but possibly Luck replacing Manning.
Way too early, but possibly Luck replacing Manning.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:45 am to SPEEDY
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Since 1999, a Colts QB has been named to the All-Pro team 14 different times
I think you mean pro bowl. Peyton was all-pro 5 times in Indy and Luck has yet to be. If you are counting second team, that still just brings us to 8.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:46 am to Upperdecker
Vick won't even sniff the HOF
Posted on 8/3/15 at 8:50 am to LeonPhelps
quote:I always forget about these two for some reason. I guess I don't think as highly of Young's career as others do.
Steve young replacing Joe Montana
Way too early,
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:11 am to MadMaxwell
Young's was only the starter for 8 seasons and missed most of his first season in 1991 and at least 5 games in 1995. But in those 8 seasons, he was league MVP twice and nearly a third time. He led the league in passer rating a record 6 times. And he had the single greatest performance in super bowl history, throwing 6 td's. Oh, and he set, and still holds, the NFL record for career QB rushing TD's. In 1994, he threw for 35 TD's against 10 int's and ran for another 7 TD's. If he had a 15 year career, he would be in the GOAT discussion.
This post was edited on 8/3/15 at 9:12 am
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:16 am to SPEEDY
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Barring injury, the Colts will end up with a nice little run
The Colts had the #1 pick for arguably the best 3 QB prospects of the last 35 years. Elway, Manning and Luck
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:19 am to LeonPhelps
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and missed most of his first season in 1991 and at least 5 games in 1995
He started 10 and played in 11 games in 1991 missing 6 of 16 is not "most". He started 11 games in 95.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:31 am to Upperdecker
You think Vick will make the HOF? Like seriously?
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:49 am to Mikes My Tiger
Vick started a change in the way the QB position is seen and played. I do think he has a chance to get in for that. QB was about drop back and stand in the pocket before Vick. Now athleticism and mobility are valued in the position
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:53 am to H-Town Tiger
For some reason I thought he missed most of 1991. Either way, doesn't change my main point. I'll take it a step further. Baseball does a black and a grey test when assessing HOF candidates. Black test means you lead a key category in a given year and grey test means you were top 5 in a given year. When you apply that test to NFL QB's, Steve young dominates the grey test, even beating Joe Montana handily. He was as dominant in his 8 seasons at QB as any QB ever was.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:53 am to MadMaxwell
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How many times in NFL history has a future hall of famer been replaced by a future hall of famer?
Luck replacing Manning
Does the injury year count with Indy's horrid QBs?
This post was edited on 8/3/15 at 9:54 am
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:54 am to Upperdecker
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Vick started a change in the way the QB position is seen and played. I do think he has a chance to get in for that. QB was about drop back and stand in the pocket before Vick. Now athleticism and mobility are valued in the position
Randall Cunningham played long before Vick
Posted on 8/3/15 at 9:54 am to Upperdecker
Randall Cunningham and Steve a Young say hello. Vick did not revolutionize the position. If anyone did, it was Cunningham.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 10:01 am to LeonPhelps
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Steve young dominates the grey test, even beating Joe Montana handily. He was as dominant in his 8 seasons at QB as any QB ever was.
i was confusing the 2 posts, yours with the guy that said he wasn't impressed with Youngs career. I agree Young was awesome and probably should get more credit when discussing all-time greats. He had 2 pieces of "bad luck" in replacing a legend and running into the Cowboy dynasty.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 10:19 am to Upperdecker
quote:you ever see Archie Manning play?
QB was about drop back and stand in the pocket before Vick.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 10:40 am to tigerbait3488
Manning and Luck.
The Colts will basically have two starting quarterbacks in a thirty year span, and both could end up being all-time greats.
The Colts will basically have two starting quarterbacks in a thirty year span, and both could end up being all-time greats.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:04 am to NorthGAVol
Gap between Danny white and troy aikman was Gary Hogeboom if recall.
Posted on 8/3/15 at 11:10 am to Fat Bastard
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Gary Hogeboom
Hogeboom started when White was still at Dallas.
It was Steve Pelluer and Kevin Sweeney between White and Aikman. I want to say Reggie Collier also started at times. Dallas had a terrible team with Landry the last two years.
This post was edited on 8/3/15 at 11:11 am
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