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re: Should 11-1 Miss St be in the playoffs if Bama wins the SECW/SEC?
Posted on 11/12/14 at 10:44 am to rocket31
Posted on 11/12/14 at 10:44 am to rocket31
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Its not "should" but they will, unless the committee pulls a switcheroo at the end on everyone.
The committee has shown time and time again that they value wins over the top 25. Miss State will have several.
Everything else we "think" the committee will do is just speculation.
Committee has the ultimate trump card for whatever they do though. They say they will value conference titles, and no one has any idea how much value they will place on that. If MSU is sitting at 4 the last week of the poll before CCG and MSU isn't playing in 1, the committee can easily justify whatever the hell they want.
Does an outright B1G title mean more than a shared Big 12 title if it comes to that? Does playing an additional game matter to the committee?
Questions 1 conference champion (2 if MSU somehow gets in) will likely be asking in early December
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Posted on 11/12/14 at 10:46 am to Boomtown
I think it would take a TCU and Baylor loss to put State through. I can see Baylor losing, but not TCU their schedule is weak sauce.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 10:50 am to WicKed WayZ
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I can see Baylor losing, but not TCU their schedule is weak sauce.
The only chance is that Thursday night game against Texas. I don't think that's a very good chance FWIW.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 10:53 am to Chicken
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The knock on Baylor would be OOC schedule...three terrible opponents...TCU played Minnesota, which, at this point, looks decent.
But the Baylor win over TCU should trump that...
Everyone points at Baylor's OOC which admittedly is poor but TCU played SMU (same as Baylor) and Samford. So other than Minnesota (who will lose their last 3 anyway) it's not that much different and the head to head should matter, even though the A-hole Arky AD said differently last night. And the way TCU blew a 21 point lead to Baylor in the final 11 minutes should hurt TCU.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 10:55 am to Buckeye06
The Committee has made it clear that it does not want two teams from the same conference in the playoff with this week's rankings.
A Mississippi State loss to Alabama this weekend will put the Leghumpers around 7, or lower, depending on the severity of the loss.
frick the committee. They're supposed to take the four best teams, I thought?
A Mississippi State loss to Alabama this weekend will put the Leghumpers around 7, or lower, depending on the severity of the loss.
frick the committee. They're supposed to take the four best teams, I thought?
Posted on 11/12/14 at 10:56 am to slackster
If this scenario happens, and even if TCU wins out, I could see them being left out. Their ROS is pretty bad no matter what angle you look at it.
So, it'd be: SEC/SEC/FSU/Pac-12
So, it'd be: SEC/SEC/FSU/Pac-12
Posted on 11/12/14 at 10:57 am to Tornado Alley
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frick the committee. They're supposed to take the four best teams, I thought?
This hasn't even happened yet. Y'all are an ornery SEC bunch, damn.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:00 am to KosmoCramer
If they are supposed to take the best 4 teams, then OSU is in for sure!
According the the stats, OSU is a top 5 team now.
According the the stats, OSU is a top 5 team now.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:02 am to slackster
I hope State loses to Alabama and Ole Miss AND Alabama loses to Auburn. Then, I want the SEC East Champ to win the SEC.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:03 am to slackster
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Should 11-1 Miss St be in the playoffs if Bama wins the SECW/SEC?
Absolutely.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:04 am to Buckeye06
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According the the stats, OSU is a top 5 team now.
Against comparatively weak competition.
But advanced metrics are on Ohio State's side, but I don't think many if any on the committee will look at those very hard if at all.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:04 am to Buckeye06
quote:no...Ohio State needs help...they don't control their own destiny.
If they are supposed to take the best 4 teams, then OSU is in for sure!
According the the stats, OSU is a top 5 team now.
If Alabama or Miss State win out, FSU wins out, Oregon or Az State wins out, and TCU/Baylor win out, Ohio State will be left holding its pud...
This post was edited on 11/12/14 at 11:07 am
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:07 am to KosmoCramer
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But advanced metrics are on Ohio State's side, but I don't think many if any on the committee will look at those very hard if at all.
Ohio State went to double overtime against a Penn State team that had 20 less scholarship players than the Buckeyes.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:07 am to Chicken
I think Ohio State could have a chance vs TCU/Baylor if Nebraska wins out.
It's interesting that Ohio State and TCU will have both played Minnesota. Apparently the committee puts emphasis on common opponents.
Ohio State needs to lay the wood this week, but in 5 degree weather, that will be easier said than done.
It's interesting that Ohio State and TCU will have both played Minnesota. Apparently the committee puts emphasis on common opponents.
Ohio State needs to lay the wood this week, but in 5 degree weather, that will be easier said than done.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:08 am to Buckeye06
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They say they will value conference titles, and no one has any idea how much value they will place on that
The committee cant place much value on conference titles since we have 4 spots and 5 conferences.
For example: "We put Ohio State in because they won their conference" - Ok then, but what about that Big 12 winner? They won their conference too.
Its just not feasible for the committee to value conference titles when there is an odd number to work with... so they wont.
The evidence is right in front of you, but it seems like youre choosing to ignore it.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:08 am to Boomtown
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Ohio State went to double overtime against a Penn State team that had 20 less scholarship players than the Buckeyes.
And this has exactly what to do with advance metrics?
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:09 am to SabiDojo
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I hope State loses to Alabama and Ole Miss AND Alabama loses to Auburn. Then, I want the SEC East Champ to win the SEC.
would be too funny. Crazy scenario: Bama beats Miss St, UGA beats AU, AU beats Bama, Ole Miss beat Miss St. All 4 of these games are basically toss ups.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:10 am to KosmoCramer
quote:sorry, but the Big Ten is down this year (see OOC record), and they will be hammered for it. You need a lot of help to get in, not to mention win the rest of your games.
I think Ohio State could have a chance vs TCU/Baylor if Nebraska wins out.
It's interesting that Ohio State and TCU will have both played Minnesota. Apparently the committee puts emphasis on common opponents.
Ohio State needs to lay the wood this week, but in 5 degree weather, that will be easier said than done.
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:10 am to hiltacular
I'm trying to think of a scenario where the SEC is not in the playoffs this year. If LSU isn't in, I don't want any of the SEC teams in.
#GoJameis
#GoJameis
Posted on 11/12/14 at 11:12 am to Chicken
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sorry, but the Big Ten is down this year (see OOC record), and they will be hammered for it. You need a lot of help to get in, not to mention win the rest of your games.
I never said anything to contrary.
Ohio State is certainly still on the outside looking in, but not by much. This season has 2007 all over it.
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