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re: Shannon Sharpe gets into the Brady v Manning Debate with Cowherd
Posted on 1/26/16 at 5:34 pm to LL012697
Posted on 1/26/16 at 5:34 pm to LL012697
quote:Fwiw, that's actually not usually the case.
It's almost like a former player knows more about analyzing the game than some nerdy radio personality
But Sharpe is spot on here.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 5:35 pm to slackster
quote:And this is why the rings are overrated.
I get what you're saying - no sane person wants Peyton over Brady to QB their team in 2016 for instance - but I actually find it funny that people are so finicky in their views of the legacies of long-time veterans that a miserable game by both QBs on Sunday changed their mind. To put it another way, Manning has played in 292 games and Brady has played in 256 games, yet people seemed to be swayed by the outcome of the game Sunday. That is ridiculous.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 5:43 pm to RLDSC FAN
Meh - I don't put too much thought into what Sharpe has to say.
Brady wins more games. Period. He's in the big games more and he comes through more than not. Last week he was hit close to a quarter of 100 times. Think about that...and he still had the game capable of going into OT (kicker doesn't shank the first kick or convert the 2-pt).
Peyton hangs on by the skin of his teeth after doing little to nothing in the second half and all of a sudden he's back on top? Nah, sorry. That doesn't work for me. Peyton couldn't even convert first downs to seal the game. Denver's defense won that one fair and square.
Also, let's not forget that they've played a grand total of 5 times in AFC Championship games (3-2 advantage Manning). That one win anchored by the Denver defense is the deciding factor?
In my eyes, this one win doesn't trump Brady's 11-6 head to head record or Brady's four Superbowls (4-2 record) compared to Peyton's one Superbowl (1-3/2-2 record).
Brady wins more games. Period. He's in the big games more and he comes through more than not. Last week he was hit close to a quarter of 100 times. Think about that...and he still had the game capable of going into OT (kicker doesn't shank the first kick or convert the 2-pt).
Peyton hangs on by the skin of his teeth after doing little to nothing in the second half and all of a sudden he's back on top? Nah, sorry. That doesn't work for me. Peyton couldn't even convert first downs to seal the game. Denver's defense won that one fair and square.
Also, let's not forget that they've played a grand total of 5 times in AFC Championship games (3-2 advantage Manning). That one win anchored by the Denver defense is the deciding factor?
In my eyes, this one win doesn't trump Brady's 11-6 head to head record or Brady's four Superbowls (4-2 record) compared to Peyton's one Superbowl (1-3/2-2 record).
Posted on 1/26/16 at 5:45 pm to nofear67
quote:
Look at how Jeter was treated by the baseball media.
Did not help your argument one freaking bit.
you are making his point.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 5:54 pm to Forkbeard3777
You can't simultaneously defer blame away from Brady AND undermine Manning in the same breath.
You bring up the head to head while making excuses for Brady's loss Sunday.
I really don't care who people prefer, I just enjoy making a mockery of team accomplishments being used to judge individuals in a sport with 22 starters.
You bring up the head to head while making excuses for Brady's loss Sunday.
I really don't care who people prefer, I just enjoy making a mockery of team accomplishments being used to judge individuals in a sport with 22 starters.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 5:55 pm to Forkbeard3777
quote:
He's in the big games more
Because he's consistently had a defense that afford to keep him in those games.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 5:56 pm to RLDSC FAN
I forgot when either of them played linebacker.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 6:03 pm to Forkbeard3777
Peyton Manning is 3-1 against Tom Brady in AFC Championship Games.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 7:54 pm to Bunk Moreland
quote:
during a run as a game-managing geriatric
Brady won a superbowl with 145 yards passing.
The patriots defense was ranked #1,#2, and #6 in the nfl during his 1st 3 SBS wins.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 8:14 pm to MusclesofBrussels
Any time that smug tool gets shut down is great by me. Can't stand Cowherd.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 8:19 pm to DeathvalleyU
Someone link the interview with Bill Burr from a couple weeks ago. Burr puts him in his place a few times as well. Cowherd gets pretty uncomfortable, and it's all around funny as hell.
And Kristine Leahy(sp) is a goddess.
And Kristine Leahy(sp) is a goddess.
This post was edited on 1/26/16 at 8:20 pm
Posted on 1/26/16 at 8:32 pm to DeathvalleyU
Burr goes after her a bit as well
Posted on 1/26/16 at 8:55 pm to shel311
quote:
Fwiw, that's actually not usually the case.
Really? I would agree with not always the case, but not usually? What specific instances have fans or journalists known more than former players?
Posted on 1/26/16 at 9:11 pm to ReauxlTide222
She is so fine and seems cool. Genius move putting her on. I watch cowherd everyday. Southern man hates him but he's got a pretty good format now.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 9:12 pm to Forkbeard3777
quote:
. Think about that...and he still had the game capable of going into OT (kicker doesn't shank the first kick or convert the 2-pt).
Or if Brady himself did not throw two interceptions.
Posted on 1/26/16 at 10:43 pm to Forkbeard3777
quote:
Brady wins more games. Period. He's in the big games more and he comes through more than not. Last week he was hit close to a quarter of 100 times. Think about that...and he still had the game capable of going into OT (kicker doesn't shank the first kick or convert the 2-pt).
the irony of bringing up the QB with the superior D and kicker in the historical context of this argument, doe
Posted on 1/27/16 at 6:36 am to Forkbeard3777
quote:
Meh - I don't put too much thought into what Sharpe has to say.
That's probably because everything you wrote after is exactly the point he was making.
Posted on 1/27/16 at 6:57 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:
the irony of bringing up the QB with the superior D and kicker in the historical context of this argument, doe
Right?
They had the article from a few years ago comparing the top QBs and their defenses.
Brady averaged around a top 10 scoring and total defense.
Want to say Manning's was in the 14-16 range.
Brees was in the 19-21 range, and that has only gotten worse.
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