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re: Rumor: Houston Rockets seeing if there is a trade market for Ty Lawson

Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:11 pm to
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:11 pm to
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You win! You went back and found a bad prediction I made.
A bad prediction, as if it's one?

Just a couple weeks ago you predicted that Houston will be 15-5 or 14-6 after 20 games. They have 11 losses with 3 games to go. You're consistently wrong, but you don't seem to realize it.
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Sorry not me, not Zach Lowe, not Billy Simmons, lots of great basketball minds didn't anticipate a slow start
Did you just refer to yourself as a great basketball mind?
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 3:14 pm
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59695 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:13 pm to
Did Simmons not say HOU would win the most regular season games this season? Over 60? Yep sure did.

Did Lowe not say he was "this close" to picking Houston to win the whole thing? Yep sure did bubba.

Houston hasn't started as good as most expected, not just me brother. The difference between me and most others is that I'm not overreacting and ready to throw in the towel, ain't a NBA champion in the history of the league been decided in November.
Posted by okietiger
Chelsea F.C. Fan
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:17 pm to
Never change Boom. Never change.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59695 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:18 pm to
You're defeated bro go troll somewhere else you don't bring anything to the table.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58082 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:19 pm to
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don't know why they would trade someone during november when games don't matter.




in the west 3 games can drop you from 2nd to 6th.

every game matters
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 3:20 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:26 pm to
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ain't a NBA champion in the history of the league been decided in November.
But you act like a team in November is completely independent of the team at the end of the year. That's just nonsense.

Sure there are circumstances (Heat in 2010-2011; injuries) that can play a role, but a poor team 20 games into a season is likely to be a poor team at the end of the season.
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 3:30 pm
Posted by WestCoastAg
Member since Oct 2012
145172 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:34 pm to
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Boomshockalocka
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Admittedly I didn't really feel like this was the guy for the team to add.
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Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17101 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 3:51 pm to
I really thought Lawson joining a winning organization like the Rockets would resurrect his career.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59695 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 4:11 pm to
It was IMO HOU prob should've just left well enough alone. Made the WCF without 2 starters you don't have to go out and get Lawson. Let the guys you have play together and get better that way.

Continuity > talent
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
17101 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 4:15 pm to
Can't disregard the impact of Josh Smith as a winner and all-around team unifier...needs to be replaced.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 4:20 pm to
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Continuity > talent
Wait a minute; here is your post from last night.
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Talent wins in the NBA. HOU has talent it's just a matter of a slow start Bc these guys know these games aren't all that important just like I know it.
Why harp on talent last night if continuity is more important?
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 4:21 pm
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59695 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 4:21 pm to
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Can't disregard the impact of Josh Smith as a winner and all-around team unifier...needs to be replaced.
Would love to get that guy back
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59695 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 4:26 pm to
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Why harp on talent last night if continuity is more important?


because it is?

You won't win a championship without continuity. The big 3 didn't win their first year, the lakers didn't win the year they signed Malone, etc. etc. You can't just throw a team together and win a championship.



I was talking about talent winning regular season games. Talent alone will get wins v most of the teams in the league. To be a chamionship team however continuity > talent



Not the least bit surprised though that you're unable to see the overall theme of a post and try to nitpick like you can catch me twisting my words.

This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 4:29 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 4:34 pm to
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I was talking about talent winning regular season games. Talent alone will get wins v most of the teams in the league.
Let me get this straight:

Last night you argued that there is no cause for concern that they are losing REGULAR season games because they are talented and talent WINS in the NBA.

Now talent is less important than continuity in regard to winning a championship.

So if talent wins regular season games, and Houston has talent (most talented according to you), but Houston isn't winning regular season games, then why aren't you concerned?

So the TALENT is not producing, and they lack the necessary "continuity." Sounds like they have some issues.
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 4:37 pm
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59695 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 4:37 pm to
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So if talent wins regular season games, and Houston has talent (most talented according to you), but Houston isn't winning regular season games, then why aren't you concerned?
Maybe, just maybe because talent will eventually win out over an 82 game season? Because 17 games isn't 82 games?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 4:40 pm to
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Maybe, just maybe because talent will eventually win out over an 82 game season? Because 17 games isn't 82 games?
No but 18 games is a representative sample and it's not exactly that sample of 82.

And the schedule only gets less favorable so they would have to improve that much more.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59695 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 4:44 pm to
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And the schedule only gets less favorable so they would have to improve that much more.



Let's be honest HOU won 56 games last season with no D12 for half the season plus a myriad of other injuries. Even if the schedule gets tougher on paper that doesn't mean a whole lot. If one team plays the Lakers and one plays the 6ers does one team really have an advantage over the other? Eben though SOS says so? No both opponents suck. When HOU hits they stride it doesn't matter if they're playing a .500 team or a .400 team HOU will be easily better than the opponent so I don't really fret much over SOS.
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 4:45 pm
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35239 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 4:57 pm to
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Let's be honest HOU won 56 games last season with no D12 for half the season plus a myriad of other injuries.
OK? Clearly last season's team is not the same.
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Even if the schedule gets tougher on paper that doesn't mean a whole lot.
Well that's just not true. Tougher schedule + more road games = more losses if performance stayed constant.
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If one team plays the Lakers and one plays the 6ers does one team really have an advantage over the other? Eben though SOS says so? No both opponents suck.
What are you talking about? If one team is better than the other, then a victory over the better team is going to less likely. That's grade school probability.
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When HOU hits they stride it doesn't matter if they're playing a .500 team or a .400 team HOU will be easily better than the opponent so I don't really fret much over SOS.
How can you say this? Right now they are getting OUTSCORED by > 7 points per game, while playing teams with an average record below 0.500 and playing nearly 2/3 of their games at home.

All of a sudden they are going to make up those 7 points, against tougher teams, on the road? And do it easily.

You are beyond delusional in your overconfidence.
This post was edited on 12/1/15 at 4:59 pm
Posted by theducks
Where The Blazers Play
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 12/1/15 at 5:06 pm to
Keep back tracking some more...
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59695 posts
Posted on 12/1/15 at 5:20 pm to
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What are you talking about? If one team is better than the other, then a victory over the better team is going to less likely. That's grade school probability.


Look at Lakers or the 6ers.. the Lakers have a better win % but are they a tougher opponent than the 6ers? Not necessarily. Just bc a team has a better win % doesn't mean that they are more difficult to win against. Grade school common sense IMO. A tougher SOS doesn't automatically mean tougher games to win, especially a SOS based off less than 1/4 of the season.
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