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Rules at the plate?

Posted on 6/14/15 at 9:23 am
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118819 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 9:23 am
If you're a runner coming to home plate and the catcher is in your running lane can you take the catcher out?

If you meet the catcher at the same time as the ball meets the catcher's glove can the runner rip the ball from the catcher's glove?

The rules are different for MLB and NCAA, right?
Posted by heypaul
The O-T Lounge
Member since May 2008
38116 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 9:25 am to
quote:

If you're a runner coming to home plate and the catcher is in your running lane can you take the catcher out?

Kinda, but not really

quote:

If you meet the catcher at the same time as the ball meets the catcher's glove can the runner rip the ball from the catcher's glove?

Yes

quote:

The rules are different for MLB and NCAA, right?

Yes
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118819 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 9:34 am to
quote:

Kinda, but not really


The way you phrased your answer leaves me to believe that the runner has to make some sort of attempt to avoid a collision at the plate?
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
10226 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 9:36 am to
A base runner has the right to run into the catcher, and break up the play at the plate when coming home, granted the runner is in the base path, and the catcher is obstructing the plate without the ball. If the catcher has the ball, then he has the right to block the plate completely, but the runner can still attempt to break up the play when sliding if the ball isn't secure in the catcher's mit.
Posted by John Doe
NOLA
Member since Feb 2007
1949 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 9:40 am to
quote:

A runner may not run out of a direct line to the plate in order to initiate contact with the catcher, or any player, covering the plate. If he does, the umpire can call him out even if the player taking the throw loses possession of the ball.
The catcher may not block the pathway of a runner attempting to score unless he has possession of the ball. If the catcher blocks the runner before he has the ball, the umpire may call the runner safe.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118819 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 9:42 am to
quote:

If the catcher has the ball, then he has the right to block the plate completely, but the runner can still attempt to break up the play when sliding if the ball isn't secure in the catcher's mit.


If the ball is secure in the catcher mit can the runner barrel into the catcher trying to dislodge the ball?

MLB?
NCAA?
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
10226 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 9:51 am to
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If the ball is secure in the catcher mit can the runner barrel into the catcher trying to dislodge the ball?

MLB?
NCAA?


Yes, and no. There are ways to barrel into a catcher, and ways not to barrel into a catcher which will get you out or ejected. I'm not an umpire, but I felt that call was always based on their discretion of what they saw during the play.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118819 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 9:52 am to


Apparently the rule is highly nuanced and subjective. I guess I'll have to read the rulebook. I was trying to avoid that.
Posted by NotoriousFSU
Atlanta, GA
Member since Oct 2008
10226 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 9:57 am to
Almost can guarantee a similar type play occurs within the next 48 hours because we're talking about it.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118819 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 10:02 am to
Posted by The Torch
DFW The Dub
Member since Aug 2014
19296 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 11:52 am to
We had a 9U catcher tag one of our players in the face and hurt him. I told my son if got the chance to run his arse over (my boy's a beast).

I got in trouble and nearly kicked out :)
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118819 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 12:00 pm to
Yeah, my boy plays 14U and collisions at the plate are against the rules. Whatever that means, because it's happened before and no was was ejected or warned. I think it's all about how the umpire judges intent.
Posted by Walt OReilly
Poplarville, MS
Member since Oct 2005
124429 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 3:21 pm to
Like clockwork

Just happened in the lsu game
Posted by lighter345
Member since Jan 2009
11864 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 3:23 pm to
What a relevant thread now
Posted by The Connoisseur
Member since Jan 2011
1012 posts
Posted on 6/14/15 at 3:23 pm to
Anyone watching the LSU game it just happened. LSU got thrown out at the plate. Catcher was blocking the plate. Watching the replay Foster should be able to run over the TCU catcher IMO. If the catcher can block the plate, the runner has to be able to do something about it. Just my opinion.
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