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re: Rudolph appears to kick Myles in balls before helmet is ripped off.

Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:28 am to
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:28 am to
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And the DA would almost certainly win that argument

Depends on the quality of the DA and the quality of the defnese attorney. One could easily argue he didn't use enough force to cause "great" bodily injury or death. It's clearly a harder argument to say a football helmet is a deadly weapon just from a common sense perspective.
This post was edited on 11/15/19 at 11:29 am
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44307 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:30 am to
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It's clearly a harder argument to say a football helmet is a deadly weapon just from a common sense perspective.


No it isn’t. Repeating this just makes you look worse, by the way.

Beer bottles have been used as deadly blunt force weapons. A helmet easily fits the bill.
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:31 am to
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RB10

Shittiest troll in existence.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116641 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:32 am to
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he didn't use enough force


it doesn't matter the force he actually used or didn't use.

It is "in the manner" aka swinging the helmet at his head.

It is partially, the INTENT.

quote:

It's clearly a harder argument to say a football helmet is a deadly weapon


No, this isn't even remotely true. It is a very, very easy argument and would likely be successful.
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:33 am to
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Beer bottles have been used as deadly blunt force weapons. A helmet easily fits the bill.
in the manner that Garrett used the helmet it wouldn't qualify.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116641 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:34 am to
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in the manner that Garrett used the helmet it wouldn't qualify.


You don't understand the definition of "In the manner"

It certainly would.

I'm not sure why I'm having this argument with a non-lawyer.
This post was edited on 11/15/19 at 11:35 am
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:34 am to
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No, this isn't even remotely true. It is a very, very easy argument and would likely be successful.

I don't see that at all. Was it Garrett's intent to kill or cause "great" bodily harm? No. Clearly not. With the force that he swung it with was it likely to cause it? No.
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:35 am to
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I'm not sure why I'm having this argument with a non-laywer.
neither am I. For the record if you're actually a lawyer and spend your friday mornings on the more sports board you're clearly a shitty lawyer. I personally know several lawyers and you shouldn't even have enough time to take a piss let alone have an argument on a message bosrd.
This post was edited on 11/15/19 at 11:37 am
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116641 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:36 am to
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Was it Garrett's intent to kill or cause "great" bodily harm?


It was his intent to swing a hard object at his head.

This hard object, when used by a 270 pound man, could easily inflict great bodily harm on an unarmed, helmet-less opponent.

He was not in danger of his life, nor was it reasonable to strike him in the head with the object.
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:37 am to
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This hard object, when used by a 270 pound man, could easily inflict great bodily harm on an unarmed, helmet-less opponent.
with how hard he swung it? Extremly doubtful.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44307 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:37 am to
Beer Bottle As Weapon

Here’s a case where a man was charged because he threw a beer bottle and the force of impact caused harm.

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The evidence at trial showed defendant was arguing with J.S. in the living room of the couple's home when defendant took a beer bottle out of J.S.'s hand and threw it near the sofa where J.S. was sitting. The bottle struck J.S. in his forehead above his right eye, causing a one- to two-inch laceration requiring seven to eight stitches and leaving a scar.


That’s eerily similar to taking a helmet off of someone’s head and then hitting them with it. How strange...

How many more times are you going to be proven wrong before you stop? This is getting embarassing for you.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116641 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:38 am to
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with how hard he swung it?


That

does

not

matter
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:41 am to
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That

does

not

matter

Actually it really, really, really does and I can't take you seriously if you don't believe it does. What a fricking idiotic opinion.
This post was edited on 11/15/19 at 11:41 am
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44307 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:41 am to
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Actually it really, really, really does and I can't take you seriously if you dkn't believe it does. What a fricking idiotic opinion.


Jesus Christ you’re stupid.
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:42 am to
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Jesus Christ you’re stupid.


Sorry I have this thing I do and it's called thinking. Try it out some time it's a lot of fun.
Posted by Fun Bunch
New Orleans
Member since May 2008
116641 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:43 am to
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Actually it really, really, really does and I can't take you seriously if you don't believe it does. What a fricking idiotic opinion.



It does not, generally speaking, under the law.

I don't care about your colloquial opinion.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
44307 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:46 am to
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Sorry I have this thing I do and it's called thinking. Try it out some time it's a lot of fun.


Thinking is the problem for you. You just aren’t smart enough to get away with it. You should really let others do the thinking for you from now on.
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:47 am to
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It does not, generally speaking, under the law.

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generally speaking

Probably because in most instances whether or not the weapon is deadly isn't up for debate. Next time a pitcher gets angry and throws a baseball at someone's head let's charge him with assault with a deadly weapon too.
Posted by MountainTiger
The foot of Mt. Belzoni
Member since Dec 2008
14672 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:47 am to
If a guy twice my size is trying to rip off my headgear, I'm kicking him in the nads too.
Posted by HogFanfromHTown
Dallas, TX
Member since Sep 2015
3597 posts
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:47 am to
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RB10

Troll better current score is 1.5/100
This post was edited on 11/15/19 at 11:48 am
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