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re: Rudolph appears to kick Myles in balls before helmet is ripped off.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:28 am to Fun Bunch
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:28 am to Fun Bunch
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And the DA would almost certainly win that argument
Depends on the quality of the DA and the quality of the defnese attorney. One could easily argue he didn't use enough force to cause "great" bodily injury or death. It's clearly a harder argument to say a football helmet is a deadly weapon just from a common sense perspective.
This post was edited on 11/15/19 at 11:29 am
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Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:30 am to HogFanfromHTown
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It's clearly a harder argument to say a football helmet is a deadly weapon just from a common sense perspective.
No it isn’t. Repeating this just makes you look worse, by the way.
Beer bottles have been used as deadly blunt force weapons. A helmet easily fits the bill.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:31 am to RB10
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RB10
Shittiest troll in existence.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:32 am to HogFanfromHTown
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he didn't use enough force
it doesn't matter the force he actually used or didn't use.
It is "in the manner" aka swinging the helmet at his head.
It is partially, the INTENT.
quote:
It's clearly a harder argument to say a football helmet is a deadly weapon
No, this isn't even remotely true. It is a very, very easy argument and would likely be successful.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:33 am to RB10
quote:in the manner that Garrett used the helmet it wouldn't qualify.
Beer bottles have been used as deadly blunt force weapons. A helmet easily fits the bill.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:34 am to HogFanfromHTown
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in the manner that Garrett used the helmet it wouldn't qualify.
You don't understand the definition of "In the manner"
It certainly would.
I'm not sure why I'm having this argument with a non-lawyer.
This post was edited on 11/15/19 at 11:35 am
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:34 am to Fun Bunch
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No, this isn't even remotely true. It is a very, very easy argument and would likely be successful.
I don't see that at all. Was it Garrett's intent to kill or cause "great" bodily harm? No. Clearly not. With the force that he swung it with was it likely to cause it? No.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:35 am to Fun Bunch
quote:neither am I. For the record if you're actually a lawyer and spend your friday mornings on the more sports board you're clearly a shitty lawyer. I personally know several lawyers and you shouldn't even have enough time to take a piss let alone have an argument on a message bosrd.
I'm not sure why I'm having this argument with a non-laywer.
This post was edited on 11/15/19 at 11:37 am
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:36 am to HogFanfromHTown
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Was it Garrett's intent to kill or cause "great" bodily harm?
It was his intent to swing a hard object at his head.
This hard object, when used by a 270 pound man, could easily inflict great bodily harm on an unarmed, helmet-less opponent.
He was not in danger of his life, nor was it reasonable to strike him in the head with the object.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:37 am to Fun Bunch
quote:with how hard he swung it? Extremly doubtful.
This hard object, when used by a 270 pound man, could easily inflict great bodily harm on an unarmed, helmet-less opponent.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:37 am to HogFanfromHTown
Beer Bottle As Weapon
Here’s a case where a man was charged because he threw a beer bottle and the force of impact caused harm.
That’s eerily similar to taking a helmet off of someone’s head and then hitting them with it. How strange...
How many more times are you going to be proven wrong before you stop? This is getting embarassing for you.
Here’s a case where a man was charged because he threw a beer bottle and the force of impact caused harm.
quote:
The evidence at trial showed defendant was arguing with J.S. in the living room of the couple's home when defendant took a beer bottle out of J.S.'s hand and threw it near the sofa where J.S. was sitting. The bottle struck J.S. in his forehead above his right eye, causing a one- to two-inch laceration requiring seven to eight stitches and leaving a scar.
That’s eerily similar to taking a helmet off of someone’s head and then hitting them with it. How strange...
How many more times are you going to be proven wrong before you stop? This is getting embarassing for you.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:38 am to HogFanfromHTown
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with how hard he swung it?
That
does
not
matter
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:41 am to Fun Bunch
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That
does
not
matter
Actually it really, really, really does and I can't take you seriously if you don't believe it does. What a fricking idiotic opinion.
This post was edited on 11/15/19 at 11:41 am
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:41 am to HogFanfromHTown
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Actually it really, really, really does and I can't take you seriously if you dkn't believe it does. What a fricking idiotic opinion.
Jesus Christ you’re stupid.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:42 am to RB10
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Jesus Christ you’re stupid.
Sorry I have this thing I do and it's called thinking. Try it out some time it's a lot of fun.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:43 am to HogFanfromHTown
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Actually it really, really, really does and I can't take you seriously if you don't believe it does. What a fricking idiotic opinion.
It does not, generally speaking, under the law.
I don't care about your colloquial opinion.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:46 am to HogFanfromHTown
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Sorry I have this thing I do and it's called thinking. Try it out some time it's a lot of fun.
Thinking is the problem for you. You just aren’t smart enough to get away with it. You should really let others do the thinking for you from now on.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:47 am to Fun Bunch
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It does not, generally speaking, under the law.
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generally speaking
Probably because in most instances whether or not the weapon is deadly isn't up for debate. Next time a pitcher gets angry and throws a baseball at someone's head let's charge him with assault with a deadly weapon too.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:47 am to HogFanfromHTown
If a guy twice my size is trying to rip off my headgear, I'm kicking him in the nads too.
Posted on 11/15/19 at 11:47 am to RB10
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RB10
Troll better current score is 1.5/100
This post was edited on 11/15/19 at 11:48 am
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