re: Remember when the MSB thought it was time for Roy to retire?

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I don't think any 1 and done type player actually cares about winning a natty in that year

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So why do you think Fox was crying like a baby after the game when being interviewed?

Yeah I don't think it's their motivation when they are picking a school either

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I wouldn't say they don't care about winning the championship but that absolutely isn't their motivation during that one year

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I'll say you can't make that a blanket statement by making my own blanket statement lol...There is a 0% chance that all 1 and done players are NOT motivated by winning a title.

Point is, some probably don't give a shite, of course. Others, it may not be their top motivation(it's probably staying healthy/maxing out their draft status), but they are definitely motivated to win a title, no doubt about that.

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So why do you think Fox was crying like a baby after the game when being interviewed?

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I'm sure making the final four is exciting and emotional

that doesn't change anything though. 1 and done players don't go into it thinking natty. They are already Mercedes shopping before they even get to campus.

you can argue the semantics all you want. I understand high level athletes want to win.

the entire point in this debate is that kracka said he doesn't understand why these high caliber players still go to UK. I do understand why. It's because they want to be drafted in the 1st round. If they win a title in that year, even better.

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So why do you think Fox was crying like a baby after the game when being interviewed?

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I don't doubt a players emotional connection to a team they are a part of. Especially after the way they lost. But our point is, when they are committing to UK, it's not because they want to win a natty. It's so they have a great draft position when they are done after their one season.

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If they want to win championships, they would be better off odds wise, going to Duke.

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I'm not 100% sure this is the case.

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It's pretty crazy how Roy gets legit good players to come to North Carolina and stay for 3-4 years in this day and age.

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it's not all that alarming if you look at the guys. I am surprised that he was able to keep Justin Jackson as long as he has. And that he kept Brice Johnson as long. Carolina must be actively saying in meetings, "look lets go find guys that are borderline that we can build the program on who won't be gone in one year. If they break out and leave after two, fine. But we want 2-4 year guys." There is no other explanation for their recruiting strategy and results.

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If you were a one and done player. And you wanted to have the best possible chance to win a natty and get in the lottery. Where would you go? UK or Duke? play along.....I am just curious at which you would choose.

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Probably splitting hairs, not sure one is much better than the other.

Since Calipari took over, yes Duke does have 2 titles to UK's one. But Duke has 2 Final 4s. UK has 4 with 3 title game appearances. So I think that's a wash, your chance at a title is virtually even at either school IMO.