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re: Re: Rivera's injury. NYY Mt. Rushmore is...
Posted on 5/4/12 at 1:29 am to The White Lobster
Posted on 5/4/12 at 1:29 am to The White Lobster
Regardless, it'd be interesting to see. And vice versa as well.
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Posted on 5/4/12 at 1:41 am to Unbiased Bama Fan
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Jeter definitely doesn't belong on the NYY Mt. Rushmore.
We'll see how people feel when he has 4,000 hits.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 8:53 am to The Boat
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Jeter is so overrated.
Wow.
Derek Jeter* 3,132 .314
That baseball all time great status, forget just a Yankee great. He's 10 hits behind Tony Gwynn, and will likely end his career Top15 in hits in the history of the game. Perhaps he was never dominant at any point, but baseball is a game if consistency and longevity.
Oh yeah, Jeter is better than Berra too.
This post was edited on 5/4/12 at 8:55 am
Posted on 5/4/12 at 8:56 am to Tiger in NY
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That baseball all time great status, forget just a Yankee great. He's 10 hits behind Tony Gwynn, and will likely end his career Top15 in hits in the history of the game. Perhaps he was never dominant at any point, but baseball is a game if consistency and longevity.
Bingo. Baloo posted an article about it here when Jeter was about to hit 3000. It basically said just that. Jeter didn't put up gaudy numbers, but he never put up shitty ones. He was/is a great model of consistency.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 9:05 am to Tiger in NY
quote:Finally! At least someone knows where I'm coming from.
That baseball all time great status, forget just a Yankee great. He's 10 hits behind Tony Gwynn, and will likely end his career Top15 in hits in the history of the game. Perhaps he was never dominant at any point, but baseball is a game if consistency and longevity.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 9:19 am to Rig
Jeter's done it the "right way" too...never gets in trouble, and bangs all kinds of 10s
Posted on 5/4/12 at 9:44 am to TigerTig
Ruth
Mantle
DiMaggio
Reggie
And that shamefully leaves off Gehrig and Yogi. Wow. Loaded history. Jeter is certainly the symbol of this current Yankee dynasty. Mo is the best pitcher they've ever had, which is odd for a team that's won so much*
*I know that Clemens is better, but I'm only counting as a Yankee.
Mantle
DiMaggio
Reggie
And that shamefully leaves off Gehrig and Yogi. Wow. Loaded history. Jeter is certainly the symbol of this current Yankee dynasty. Mo is the best pitcher they've ever had, which is odd for a team that's won so much*
*I know that Clemens is better, but I'm only counting as a Yankee.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 9:44 am to Tiger in NY
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and bangs all kinds of 10s
And sends them gift baskets afterwards.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 9:48 am to CocomoLSU
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And sends them gift baskets afterwards.
That tidbit made me like Jeter.
I think amassing hits is overrated, as a rule. Singles hitters with no power get wildly overrated, but Jeter doesn't quite fit that mold. He's a doubles hitter. He's also a model of consistency. I think saying he's better than Yogi is crazy talk, but that's because I think Yogi is sort of awesome.
Jeter is an odd player -- simaltaneously overrated and underrated. Just depending on who you are talking to. He's not Ruth, but he's a slam dunk Hall of Famer.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 10:03 am to Baloo
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That tidbit made me like Jeter.
I think amassing hits is overrated, as a rule. Singles hitters with no power get wildly overrated, but Jeter doesn't quite fit that mold. He's a doubles hitter. He's also a model of consistency.
Oh no doubt...it's awesome that he does that to random women he bangs.
As for the singles hitter thing, I don't agree that amassing hits is overrated. It's not easy to get hits (as BAs prove), so even "only" hitting singles is impressive and noteworthy at times, especially if you can do it consistently and seemingly forever.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 11:01 am to CocomoLSU
you also gotta wonder how Jeter playing in todays age affects him. Most people hate NYY, and he's been the face of the team for a long time.
Will make you wonder what people will be saying in 60 years about his legacy
Will make you wonder what people will be saying in 60 years about his legacy
Posted on 5/4/12 at 11:37 am to Rig
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Look up the stats dude. He ranks in the Top 5 in almost every category.
ETA: It's easy to just throw emoticons on a post and hit submit. It'd be much more respectable if you at least tried to throw an opinion and some facts behind a post.
If you think Jeters stats are anywhere near Dimaggio Ruth Gehrig or Mantles then you simply don't know baseball.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 1:31 pm to VerlanderBEAST
quote:If you're trying to compare HR's and RBI's of course not.
If you think Jeters stats are anywhere near Dimaggio Ruth Gehrig or Mantles then you simply don't know baseball.
All-Time Stats as a NYY that favor Jeter
If you go by hits Jeter ranks #1
If you go by doubles Jeter ranks #2
If you go by games played Jeter ranks #1
If you go by stolen bases Jeter ranks #1
It depends what you determine greatness on. Hell I simply don't know baseball
This post was edited on 5/4/12 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 5/4/12 at 1:34 pm to VerlanderBEAST
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If you think Jeters stats are anywhere near Dimaggio Ruth Gehrig or Mantles then you simply don't know baseball.
Jeter isn't like any of those guys and they played in different eras.
Ichiro doesn't have "comparable" numbers to Ryan Howard. Who's the better hitter?
Posted on 5/4/12 at 1:37 pm to Srbtiger06
And by no means am I using that to prop up Jeter as being on the level of/better than the old timers. Its just a point. You can't knock DJ for his lack of power.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 1:44 pm to Srbtiger06
Jeter's top 5 in BA in Yankee history (#5), but he's not top 10 in either OBP or SLG. He's #1 in at bats by nearly 2000, yet he ranks 4th in total bases. He's not in the top ten in OPS+ in team history. He's an all-time great, but he's nowhere near Mantle, much less Ruth.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 1:51 pm to Baloo
Oh hell no he isn't close to mantle or Ruth.
Put into context though, I think Jeter is arguably a top 5 all time Yankee as a total package. The Yankees pride themselves on championships, and he has 5. He's Mr November. He's a fan favorite. He has the 3000. He has "the flip". Hes grown up as a Yankee and been there his entire career. In the fans eyes, he does no wrong. Hell how often do you hear "I hate the Yankees but respect Jeter".
Purely from a state standpoint, no he's not a top 5. Maybe not even 10. As an all around player and figure and "Yankee" though, he's at least in the discussion for top 5.
Put into context though, I think Jeter is arguably a top 5 all time Yankee as a total package. The Yankees pride themselves on championships, and he has 5. He's Mr November. He's a fan favorite. He has the 3000. He has "the flip". Hes grown up as a Yankee and been there his entire career. In the fans eyes, he does no wrong. Hell how often do you hear "I hate the Yankees but respect Jeter".
Purely from a state standpoint, no he's not a top 5. Maybe not even 10. As an all around player and figure and "Yankee" though, he's at least in the discussion for top 5.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 1:54 pm to sgallo3
Mo has to be on the Mt. Rushmore. Best Closer of all time.
IF he isn't on the Yankee's Mt. Rushmore....During the unveiling, they should use Enter Sandman.
IMO, Mantle, Ruth, Rivera, DiMaggio
Berra, Gehrig, Jeter, A-Rod on the outside looking in.
ETA: Jeter has a strong case. I think if we are only using 4. It's those 4, Jeter would be the top 5. . if not replacing Mo. Almost interchangeable.
IF he isn't on the Yankee's Mt. Rushmore....During the unveiling, they should use Enter Sandman.
IMO, Mantle, Ruth, Rivera, DiMaggio
Berra, Gehrig, Jeter, A-Rod on the outside looking in.
ETA: Jeter has a strong case. I think if we are only using 4. It's those 4, Jeter would be the top 5. . if not replacing Mo. Almost interchangeable.
This post was edited on 5/4/12 at 1:58 pm
Posted on 5/4/12 at 1:55 pm to Srbtiger06
From a "true Yankee" standpoint, the argument ends at Yogi Berra. I'm not saying Jeter is a bad player by any means, but he's clearly a level below those all-time greats IMNSHO.
I do think he's safely in the top ten of all time.
I do think he's safely in the top ten of all time.
Posted on 5/4/12 at 1:59 pm to Baloo
Yeah yogi is easily the GOAT in those terms.
I'd go
Yogi
Ruth
Mantle
Gehrig
As shoe ins. Probably jumping Joe but i think there would be a sizable group that would argue Jeter. Personally...Idk how I'd go outside of those 4. Jeter would at least be in the discussion though.
I'd go
Yogi
Ruth
Mantle
Gehrig
As shoe ins. Probably jumping Joe but i think there would be a sizable group that would argue Jeter. Personally...Idk how I'd go outside of those 4. Jeter would at least be in the discussion though.
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