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re: Ranking the All-Time Best NCAA Teams
Posted on 4/1/16 at 5:46 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Posted on 4/1/16 at 5:46 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
I've always wondered this in these discussions. If a team is the best all time, and that year another team played them incredibly close and had no other losses. Shouldn't they be in the discussion for a best teams ever top 10 spot?
For example, a homer example, but still a good one.
If 1976 Indiana is #2, than shouldn't a team that played them tougher than anyone else be on this list.
They beat Alabama in the NCAA tournament 74-69, and it was closer than the score. Alabama was legitimately the second best team in the tourney that year.
So shouldn't they be in the discussion for top 15-25 overall.
For example, a homer example, but still a good one.
If 1976 Indiana is #2, than shouldn't a team that played them tougher than anyone else be on this list.
They beat Alabama in the NCAA tournament 74-69, and it was closer than the score. Alabama was legitimately the second best team in the tourney that year.
So shouldn't they be in the discussion for top 15-25 overall.
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Posted on 4/1/16 at 6:03 pm to H-Town Tiger
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prior to the 80's most players stayed for 4 years for a variety of factors, 1 being the NBA was nowhere near as big as it is now and the salaries where not nearly as large as they would become. Also the league was much smaller
And freshman weren't allowed to play and they got more seasoned and stacked teams.
In fact Kareem as a freshman at UCLA on the freshmen team beat the defending national champs UCLA varsity team in an intrasquad reffed game. And then played 3 more years being NCAA tournament MVP 3 straight years...you will never of course see that again.
This post was edited on 4/1/16 at 6:05 pm
Posted on 4/1/16 at 6:06 pm to sjmabry
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hat UNLV team that beat Duke by 30 in the title game is not listed?
List is shite.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 8:09 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
quote:Forgive me, but I refuse to acknowledge anything that happened in basketball during a time when something like that was possible.
and Digger Phelps' team attempted only one shot in the first 10 minutes of the second half. The Irish lost, 57-32.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 8:47 pm to Bench McElroy
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I still say 1999 Duke is the greatest college basketball team to ever step foot on the basketball court. They were just obliterating everybody that season and then proceeded to lay a complete egg in the biggest game of the year.
id give the nod to 1996 kentucky over that duke team, although 99 duke is probably the second best team I've seen over the last 20 years or so.
That late 90s UNC team with jamison and vinsanity was stacked too but i think they only went 6 deep and didnt have the depth to win a championship.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 9:51 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Don't know enough CBB history but would think Wilt Chamberlin's Kansas teams should probably make an appearance.
Nvm. Surprised to see he never won one.
Nvm. Surprised to see he never won one.
This post was edited on 4/1/16 at 9:58 pm
Posted on 4/1/16 at 10:18 pm to ReauxlTide222
Well that argument negates most of Carolina's history and glory...four corners.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 10:45 pm to stlslick
quote:I'm not quite old enough but everyone i know who watched college bball swears that unlv was the best college bball team they've ever seen.
hat UNLV team that beat Duke by 30 in the title game is not listed?
List is shite.
Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:01 pm to beaverfever
Which is sad that we've been deprived of juggernauts and stars, that UNLV team was one of the last to hang around and not bolt...
But it used to be commonplace, Kareem 4 years, Hoya Paranoia, Bill Walton, Hakeem and Clyde, Danny Manning as a senior, Ralph Sampson 4 years at Virginia, Bill Russell with SF back to back.
The reason the list favors the old teams is because they were stacked...future NBA stars and HOFers were in college for years and dynasties were built and the quality was there...guys who would have been All-Stars in the NBA if they could have come out as sophmores were still in college. Some of the best basketball on the planet was still in college, that's why the list is weighted heavily to stacked hof teams in the past.
But it used to be commonplace, Kareem 4 years, Hoya Paranoia, Bill Walton, Hakeem and Clyde, Danny Manning as a senior, Ralph Sampson 4 years at Virginia, Bill Russell with SF back to back.
The reason the list favors the old teams is because they were stacked...future NBA stars and HOFers were in college for years and dynasties were built and the quality was there...guys who would have been All-Stars in the NBA if they could have come out as sophmores were still in college. Some of the best basketball on the planet was still in college, that's why the list is weighted heavily to stacked hof teams in the past.
This post was edited on 4/1/16 at 11:03 pm
Posted on 4/1/16 at 11:06 pm to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
Drexler left as a junior in 83. Jordan was junior when left also, as Nique did. Olajuwon was a R-Jr
Ewing Mullen Worthy Lee Sampson all played 4 years though.
Ewing Mullen Worthy Lee Sampson all played 4 years though.
This post was edited on 4/1/16 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 4/2/16 at 10:06 am to mizzoubuckeyeiowa
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And freshman weren't allowed to play and they got more seasoned and stacked teams.
That ended in the early 70's but yes, also a factor.
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Drexler left as a junior in 83. Jordan was junior when left also, as Nique did. Olajuwon was a R-Jr
Ewing Mullen Worthy Lee Sampson all played 4 years though.
Worthy left as a Jr also. By the 80's going pro after 3 years was pretty much the norm for top players, though some did stay, Ewing, Morning, Sampson, Laettner, even Grant Hill and probably the last guy that would have been a lottery pick as a Soph to do it, Tim Duncan A handful of guys; Magic, Isiah Thomas along with 2 LSU guys John Williams and Chris Jackson left as Sophomores. It wasn't until Kevin Garnett went straight to the NBA from HS that it became common for guys go to the league from HS (Moses Malone and I think 1 or 2 other guys did it in the 70's) and of course now that the NBA was the 1 year rule, the 1 and done is the norm.
This post was edited on 4/2/16 at 10:18 am
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