re: Ranking FBS national champions since 1990

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Only three of those players were good enough to be drafted

Look at the players that replaced them all drafted

Talent wise the 2005 D was much better and had more players drafted into the NFL

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why can't you just admit you are wrong. first you asked for proof, now you are moving the goalposts.

the talent on the 05 defense was mostly fr and so, and they didn't gel until 06, 07 and finally culminated with the monstrous 08 defense.

the 05 defense lost almost all of the starting d-line and linebackers from 04.

His numbers about returning starters were obviously made up but still 05 USC > 04 USC

05 USC D is the extremely underrated they played the

#1 Texas
#5 UCLA
#6 Fresno St
#7 Arizona St
#8 Notre Dame
#12 Oregon
#21 Washington St
#25 Cal

ranked scoring offenses and held all of them except Fresno below their scoring average

nobody said usc's offense in 05 wasn't better than in 04, as they all had 1 more year under their belt.

usc 04 offense was an A+, the 05 offense was A++

however, the 04 usc defense was an A, while the 05 defense dropped to a C-

04 was a better overall team, its not debatable. the 05 defense got shredded by other teams not nearly as good as Texas.

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632627

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Quit being A homer... And STFU.....................

Nebraska in 1995 would have destroyed2005 USC team....

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#6 Fresno St

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an 8-5 fresno team put up 42 points on usc in the coliseum in 05.

that should tell you all you need to know about the 05 usc defense.

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Unlike Bama that couldn't play power football and they put their QB in positions to get hurt or turn the ball over

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You was already hurt going into the game you idiot. You're trying to come pointless excuses for Texas elite run defense giving up 2 100 yard rushing performance despite there hardly being a passing game to defend.

For the like the 3rd time, if you want to play the "if he wasn't hurt game" then it works for Bama too. Almost all of McElroy's throws were short throws and Julio Jones had just 23 receiving yards on 1 catch. You honestly don't think Julio and Maze could've done just a little bit more damage if McElroy was able to throw a pass without hurting himself more?

Texas came into the game giving up 189 passing yards per game. So it's not crazy to think that McElroy could've had 158 passing yards which most likely would've led to a couple scores for Bama.

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04 USC was not an A+ offense they got shut down by Cal and Virginia Tech

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usc 04 offense was #6 overall scoring offense in the country. they were actually the #1 power 5/bcs offense, as the top 5 schools were from non bcs leagues.

You are talking about replacing players who did not become NFL players with players who were drafted

Like I said you lost two DT's.
Those two made a slight difference talent wise on the line but bringing back your entire offense makes up the difference


Both of those teams dominated their opponents all year
Just look at the game for both teams before they matched up
I could say that 2004 Texas was better because of Cedric Benson.
I think 2004 Texas at the end of the year would have beaten 2004 USC like they did in 2005

The truth is Vince Young was unstoppable.


I think especially on this site that game is underrated as people will say 2012 LSU Alabama game was better

2005 Rose Bowl was the greatest game in college football history and even with a USC loss you should still have pride in that team

I am sure if that 4th and 1 was converted you would be saying that was the greatest team ever and the truth is I would agree with you

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an 8-5 fresno team put up 42 points on usc in the coliseum in 05.

that should tell you all you need to know about the 05 usc defense.

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Fresno St had a great offense that year #6 scoring offense in the country(38 ppg). Fresno scored 4 more than their season average against USC

In 2004 Stanford scored 6 more than their average(22 ppg) vs USC