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re: Raise your hand if you still care about the awarding of this season's NBA MVP

Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:16 pm to
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:16 pm to
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Mainly calling them an instant threat to the west finals. 


If you don't think a core of three top 15 players can threaten for the west finals then I won't even bother to convince you of the rest, but I'm bored, so I'll try.

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They'd have to burn through assets to get the space


Multiple scenarios where Dell can make it work

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wouldn't have a 2 or 3 that could start for the worst teams in the league. 


Solo hill is a backup three in the league but he's an excellent defender and just needs to knock down occasional threes. He did show promise when actually driving and creating at the rim, and would easily start on the worst teams.

Jordan Crawford is a sieve on defense but can fill it up pretty damn quick. It's why Cousins called him instant grits.


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And no mention of Paul, Boogie, and AD being a terrible fit as well. 



Personality wise sure. Boogie doesn't like Chris. I can agree with that. Can two grown men squash their shite to come together to win? I'd like to think so.

From a basketball perspective it's a perfect fit. Elite passing guard that can create his own shot fits well on most teams. Give him two elite offensive bigs and its perfect.


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And the thought that Boogie is better than prime Blake Griffin. That's actually the worst part.



Boogie put up 27 10 and 4 before coming over last year, and led his team in 3pt% He was basically dragging that team to a potential 8 seed. Easy to make an argument that Boogie is better and more skilled than Blake, and I'm not even talking about injuries.

But he's not the guy you compare Blake to. That's AD, and no one in the league would take Blake over him right now. Boogie should be compared to Deandre Jordan, and no one in the league would take Deandre over Boogie.
This post was edited on 6/26/17 at 12:19 pm
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:17 pm to
Agree to disagree.


We're not talking about winning a title or challenging GS. Any time you put 3 top 15 players on a team, that team almost by default is going to be a threat to get to a Conference Finals.

Are there examples otherwise? Again, not even talking about a team that may have missed the Conference Finals, but 1 that was not even a threat? I can't think of 1.
Posted by floridatigah
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:25 pm to
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Multiple scenarios where Dell can make it work


Give me these scenarios.

So the 4th best player on this WCF threat is Solo Hill, the 5th best is Jordan Crawford, and the bench is made up of a MLE guy and minimum guys? That team is getting swept by the Spurs.

A CP, AD, and Boogie core would need spacing, otherwise teams are going to pack the paint on defense. They have no shooting and no way to add any.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:30 pm to
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Give me these scenarios. 


One is sign and trading Jrue holiday for Chris.

And yeah, the fourth best player is an elite defender that shot pretty well from three at the end of the season. And spacing comes from Jordan Crawford raining fire from 3.
Posted by floridatigah
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:35 pm to
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And yeah, the fourth best player is an elite defender that shot pretty well from three at the end of the season. And spacing comes from Jordan Crawford raining fire from 3.


Anddddd we're done

Posted by Boomshockalocka
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:38 pm to
bless his heart.
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:39 pm to
What's the list of teams with 3 top 15 players who weren't a threat to make a Conf Finals?
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:40 pm to
Ok. You want to completely discredit how good those the players are by shitting on the other two starters, both of whom have legit abilities that would contribute to team success. Depth would be an issue, but our GM has talent when it comes to finding those decent bargain backups.

Pels are going to the playoffs regardless next year.
Posted by floridatigah
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:41 pm to
I don't know man. I'd have to think about it, the stacking of teams is pretty unprecedented until recently. Who is the cf threat who's 4th best player was as bad as Solomon Hill?
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:43 pm to
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  bless his heart.


Hey it's the guy that never responded to my post two pages ago! Can't refute my argument but hey you can damn sure piggy back on someone else's post.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:46 pm to
Joel Anthony and mike Bibby started the finals for the Heat.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:47 pm to
Bc your a crap poster. Maybe even THE crap poster. Worth laughing at but not deserving of serious discussion. Too much of a homer and not all that smart TBH.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:51 pm to
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Bc your a crap poster. Maybe even THE crap poster.  


I can never take that title from you Boom. You've worked too hard to earn it.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:52 pm to
Says the poster who called hill and Crawford legit starters.


They are hardly legit NBA players Bubba. Much less starters.
This post was edited on 6/26/17 at 12:53 pm
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:53 pm to
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Boom


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What we seeing this series is how Leonards d can be nullified and how valuable james play making is. When this series is over it should be apprent to even your more casual fans who the better player is.





Posted by floridatigah
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:55 pm to
Sure, I mentioned that team as the comparison. The Heat's big 3 is so much better than the Pel's hypothetical and they weren't competing with the Warriors and Spurs.
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:56 pm to
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Says the poster who called hill and Crawford legit starters. 


They are hardly legit NBA players Bubba. Much less starters.


Since when does starters for a bad team= legit NBA starters in terms of Solo? He does have an elite skill. You act like he's worthless. Bad eval from you, which is par for the Boom course.

Crawford is going to surprise a lot of people. Including you bubba.

Posted by floridatigah
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:57 pm to
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What's the list of teams with 3 top 15 players who weren't a threat to make a Conf Finals?


Kobe, Dwight, and Nash all finished in the top 9 of MVP voting the year before they went to the Lakers
Posted by whatiknowsofar
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 12:59 pm to
Isn't that the year Kobe tore his Achilles?
Posted by StlPoke
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Posted on 6/26/17 at 1:01 pm to
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3 top 15 players would be a threat for the wcf.


Not with that roster. It is pure garbarge.
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