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re: Playing a big time OOC game early in the season is dumb
Posted on 12/2/16 at 9:35 pm to Hot Carl
Posted on 12/2/16 at 9:35 pm to Hot Carl
According to some on this board, OOC games don't matter no matter who you play. All that matters is being a conference champion!!!!11!
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 9:37 pm
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Posted on 12/2/16 at 9:55 pm to Xenophon
I go back and forth on this. On one hand, why make your schedule harder than it needs to be. On the other hand, if you have a great team that's championship caliber, you want to make sure you set the table to show how good they are. You don't want them to miss the playoffs because their schedule wasn't difficult enough.
Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:44 pm to Xenophon
2006 - 07 VT
Posted on 12/2/16 at 10:56 pm to Xenophon
Yup. A 2 loss Usc would be highly considered for the playoffs right now. Hell, Vegas has as the #3 team in the country even with 3 losses.
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:03 pm to gobuxgo5
Sorry, just trying to use real history.
Back to the original premise:
I think if I was a blue blood I would avoid the big time out of conference games (a lot at risk with a potential loss). If not a blue blood, then I think you need that win to get you in.
Back to the original premise:
I think if I was a blue blood I would avoid the big time out of conference games (a lot at risk with a potential loss). If not a blue blood, then I think you need that win to get you in.
This post was edited on 12/2/16 at 11:04 pm
Posted on 12/2/16 at 11:04 pm to bucknut15
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According to some on this board, OOC games don't matter no matter who you play. All that matters is being a conference champion!!!!11!
According to you, OOC are very important so a 3 game non conference slate including Alabama and Notre Dame should be valued. Where's our playoff spot?
Posted on 12/3/16 at 12:24 am to navy
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Yeah, LSU fricked up by not firing Miles soon enough, playing Wisky, and starting Harris.
Orgeron lost 2 games to the only currently ranked teams he played. Im not sure why there's a contingency of LSU fans who would have crucified Miles over the UF game but give Orgeron a pass. Only thing I can think of is they're so biased towards Orgeron having a more Louisiana influence and Miles being a yankee. I'll never understand that simple minded way of thinking though.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 12:34 am to Xenophon
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Really same goes for Oklahoma. Don't play OSU and you are in the playoff.
Have you seen out most recent opener that we scheduled in Atlanta? The best team we could get was Duke. People want to play solid ooc teams, not great ones.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:48 am to Xenophon
If Ohio State doesn't have an OOC victory over OU, they are behind Penn St.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:51 am to Xenophon
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Any AD that schedules one against Alabama is stupid
Posted on 12/3/16 at 1:56 am to BayouBengals03
quote:If I ever meet you in person, the first beer is on me.
4 conferences of 16 teams.
9 conferences games. 3 OOC games. One from each of the other three conferences on a rotating basis.
or something.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 2:05 am to Xenophon
Pretty sure you're an LSU fan unless I'm wrong; if you are, 
In 2003 was ahead of USC for the #2 spot by the narrowest margin in the BCS era. Had LSU played a 2-10 Sun Belt team instead of 2-10 Arizona, they would not have been in the Sugar Bowl that year, and there would be no title.
In 2007, had LSU and Virginia Tech played North Texas and Marshall, respectively, instead of each other, Virginia Tech would have been in the BCSCG against Ohio State, and LSU would be in the Sugar Bowl a week earlier, so this example proves that there are two sides to this and that scheduling involves calculated risks.
All in all, it depends on who you are and how tough your conference/division schedule is, as well as the added benefits a program gets from playing a high-profile game (exposure/recruits/etc).
Even your Colorado reference proves that there are two sides to this. Michigan's schedule proved to be so difficult that finishing third in their division hasn't eliminated them from playoff contention. Had they played and beaten Ball State instead of Colorado, their SOS wouldn't be high enough to put them in the top 4.
In 2003 was ahead of USC for the #2 spot by the narrowest margin in the BCS era. Had LSU played a 2-10 Sun Belt team instead of 2-10 Arizona, they would not have been in the Sugar Bowl that year, and there would be no title.
In 2007, had LSU and Virginia Tech played North Texas and Marshall, respectively, instead of each other, Virginia Tech would have been in the BCSCG against Ohio State, and LSU would be in the Sugar Bowl a week earlier, so this example proves that there are two sides to this and that scheduling involves calculated risks.
All in all, it depends on who you are and how tough your conference/division schedule is, as well as the added benefits a program gets from playing a high-profile game (exposure/recruits/etc).
Even your Colorado reference proves that there are two sides to this. Michigan's schedule proved to be so difficult that finishing third in their division hasn't eliminated them from playoff contention. Had they played and beaten Ball State instead of Colorado, their SOS wouldn't be high enough to put them in the top 4.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 5:54 am to Jon Ham
I always want to play. I wanted OSU in the 1G title game even if they are a lock as some assume
Posted on 12/3/16 at 6:17 am to Xenophon
It all depends on whether or not you win those games. OSU gets a lot of credit for beating OU and Wisconsin gets a ton of credit for beating LSu (which is actually wis only win over a ranked team)
I think Wisconsin is a decent team with a good defense, but they are not top 7 caliber.
I think Wisconsin is a decent team with a good defense, but they are not top 7 caliber.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 7:05 am to Oddibe
quote:Fifth best record in the country vs the 10th toughest schedule. Easily top 7.
I think Wisconsin is a decent team with a good defense, but they are not top 7 caliber.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 8:58 am to Xenophon
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Any AD that schedules one is stupid. Everyone said the playoff would allow for big time early season games because their was more margin for error. But it's obvious the committee values those games more than winning your conference.
Colorado could win the PAC12 tonight and won't be in consideration for the playoff because they chose to play Michigan. They could have played Idaho instead and tonight's game would be a play in for the playoffs.
Its a gamble no doubt but look at Washington. They needed to win last night to get in the playoff because their OOC schedule was so bad. Ill grant you that sometimes it works against you but Ohio State is getting a bit of a pass over the Big 10 Champ (possibly) because they have a good OOC win over Oklahoma.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:05 am to BatonRougeBuckeye
Well, it isn't changing for Ohio State. They have great OOC match ups coming up in the next 8 years. The only problem is that some match ups (Oregon and TCU) are looking a lot worse than they did when they were scheduled.
At this moment in 2022 (or 2023) Ohio State has Texas and Notre Dame scheduled in back to back OOC games. I'm looking forward to that year.
At this moment in 2022 (or 2023) Ohio State has Texas and Notre Dame scheduled in back to back OOC games. I'm looking forward to that year.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:09 am to ToesOnTheNose213
No, according to me the whole schedule is important, including your overall record.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:21 am to BatonRougeBuckeye
OSU lost to a horrible VT and still made the playoffs.
It is about your name more than anything.
The blue bloods will more than likely get the benefit of the doubt however the situation favors them and everyone else will not.
These OOC games are scheduled 4-5 years out, nobody has a clue if the team will be trending up or down when the actual match up arrives.
It is about your name more than anything.
The blue bloods will more than likely get the benefit of the doubt however the situation favors them and everyone else will not.
These OOC games are scheduled 4-5 years out, nobody has a clue if the team will be trending up or down when the actual match up arrives.
Posted on 12/3/16 at 9:26 am to hiltacular
quote:more like "go undefeated" and your name doesn't matter
It is about your name more than anything.
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