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re: PFF ranks the NFL Rookie WRs
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:06 am to Vicks Kennel Club
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:06 am to Vicks Kennel Club
quote:I'm guessing you meant 1.0 for the Miami game. I watched that game. He didn't look studly. His 57% completion percentage reflects that.
Earlier this year, Rodgers received a game rating of 0.1 after literally raping an opposing defense. He was given that score because "he made throws he was expected to make." His stat line was something like 300+ yards, 3 TD's, 0 INT's, and high YPA.
Stat line:
24 of 42
57%
264 yards
3 TDs
0 INTs
6.3 YPA
You should take your own advice and watch the game.
Obviously, PFF isn't the end all be all, but it's a useful tool.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 11:14 am
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Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:07 am to beaver
I mean, take all the shots at Brees you want but blatantly denying you brought up Cam just make you look crazy
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:08 am to saintsfan92612
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who is actually playing well and not just Kobe-ing and putting up stats while hurting their team.
Also, putting up stats helps the team. Playing like Kobe would not hurt the team. There is a reason that the Panthers go to Kelvin over and over again. He is a good option and all of the other pass catchers blow except for Greg Olsen. It is very difficult to use a stat that could be based off of league average when the replacement options are well below league and affect the efficiency of all parties.
The same goes for Kobe. He is not hurting the team. Maybe Jeremy Lin and Carlos Boozer should attempt more shots. In fact, it would be nice if they tried to move when off the ball or made meaningful passes.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:10 am to Vicks Kennel Club
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Also, putting up stats helps the team. Playing like Kobe would not hurt the team.
being smart and efficient helps the team. Jacking up fadeaway 3s when triple teamed does not.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:12 am to Vicks Kennel Club
If (when) Jeremy Maclin leaves at the end of this season, Jordan Matthews will be the best WR of this class.
Statistic-wise. Not talent-wise.
Statistic-wise. Not talent-wise.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:14 am to boom roasted
quote:
Obviously, PFF isn't the end all be all, but it's a useful tool.
It is borderline useless for skill players. It seems to almost rate defensive players on a different scale (easier to obtain higher score) that do not reflect their comparative value. I like the concept of the player grades, especially for rating offensive linemen, since their roles can be easier to quantitatively define, but the result creates lazy answers and a lack of true analysis.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:15 am to saintsfan92612
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being smart and efficient helps the team. Jacking up fadeaway 3s when triple teamed does not.
Watch a Lakers game or two (as painful as it is). The rest of the team is semi-functioning retards. Having no Kobe would not help. There is no else on the team who can do shite.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:15 am to Vicks Kennel Club
quote:You mean hard hitting analysis like Rodgers literally raped the Miami defense?
lack of true analysis
Every formula used to judge a performance is going to be flawed. I think looking to PFF is less flawed than just checking the box score. Obviously, nothing is better than actually watching the game and taking notes, but people ain't got time to watch every game.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 11:17 am
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:17 am to boom roasted
quote:
Stat line:
24 of 42
57%
264 yards
3 TDs
0 INTs
6.3 YPA
You should take your own advice and watch the game.
Sorry, I was busy working that day for the NFL.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:18 am to Vicks Kennel Club
quote:Awesome!
Sorry, I was busy working that day for the NFL.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:20 am to boom roasted
quote:
You mean hard hitting analysis like Rodgers literally raped the Miami defense?
Every formula used to judge a performance is going to be flawed. I think looking to PFF is less flawed than just checking the box score. Obviously, nothing is better than actually watching the game and taking notes, but people ain't got time to watch every game
I did not get to watch the game. I read online that Rodgers (I thought) received a very mediocre score for a great game.
I would rather look through the box scores myself than rely on the output of a single number to tell how a player performed. Plus, what does each in the scale mean? Obviously, a 1.0 is above average, but how is good is it compared to the league average?
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:23 am to Vicks Kennel Club
quote:They have a lengthy explanation of how they do their rankings.
Plus, what does each in the scale mean?
quote:17 QBs in the positive. 22 QBs in the negative.
Obviously, a 1.0 is above average, but how is good is it compared to the league average?
ETA: It's a moot point now, but I'm still getting a chuckle out of you slamming PFF's rating of that game when you didn't watch the game and relied upon an article to let you know how the game went.
This post was edited on 11/17/14 at 11:27 am
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:41 am to boom roasted
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ETA: It's a moot point now, but I'm still getting a chuckle out of you slamming PFF's rating of that game when you didn't watch the game and relied upon an article to let you know how the game went.
Nah, one of the members of the Bears front office told me that Rodgers sliced up the Dolphins. That is where I got that opinion. I figured I could trust it, since he knows a lot more than either of us. I saw the number after the fact.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 11:57 am to lsutigers1992
quote:
If (when) Jeremy Maclin leaves at the end of this season, Jordan Matthews will be the best WR of this class.
Statistic-wise. Not talent-wise.
Any other year, he would have went first round.
The guy is a stud, a true #1 receiver with a good combination of size (6'3 212lbs) and speed (4.46s). Produced well in college too (1323 yards in his junior, 1477 yards in his senior year)...if you read ST a handful of us were wanting to sit at 27 and picking him up to replace Colston going into 2015 and picking up another receiver/scat-back like Brown, DAT, or Archer in the later rounds.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 1:46 pm to htran90
yep, I was one of the ones who wanted Matthews at 27 but I would have killed for Odell.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 2:16 pm to saintsfan92612
These rankings honestly make me doubt PFF as a whole. (And I usually put alot of faith in their analysis).
High # of targets or not, i just cannot reconcile a rookie receiver on pace for 1200 yds being ranked last.
High # of targets or not, i just cannot reconcile a rookie receiver on pace for 1200 yds being ranked last.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 2:21 pm to Brightside Bengal
Stats are very deceptive. That's why the Panthers are sitting on three wins.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 2:25 pm to mmonro3
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Stats are very deceptive. That's why the Panthers are sitting on three wins.
But you can't attribute the losses solely to Benjamin. Like I said, Benjamin was placed in an incredibly difficult position. The offensive line is awful, the defense is a shell of what it was last year, the backfield is always injured and can't do anything, AND Benjamin is expected to be the #1 guy in every game. He is triple covered constantly and the guy still makes plays.
He does have a lot of drops. He had that problem at FSU. Still, I've been very impressed with his performance this year. He is nowhere near the worst rookie receiver.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 3:09 pm to SabiDojo
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But you can't attribute the losses solely to Benjamin.
Never said that.
quote:
Like I said, Benjamin was placed in an incredibly difficult position. The offensive line is awful, the defense is a shell of what it was last year, the backfield is always injured and can't do anything, AND Benjamin is expected to be the #1 guy in every game.
True
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He is triple covered constantly and the guy still makes plays.
We're watching different games.
quote:
He does have a lot of drops. He had that problem at FSU.
Well-Documented sooo True
quote:
Still, I've been very impressed with his performance this year. He is nowhere near the worst rookie receiver.
He's got a lot of talent and I agree he is no where near the worst rookie receiver, but he still has a lot to learn (Mostly Route Running, Blocking, and Emotions) and hands just don't get magically better.
Posted on 11/17/14 at 3:12 pm to beaver
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What does Cam have to do with anything?
Nothing, why did you bring him up?
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