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re: People ripping Lebron at this point just look stupid.

Posted on 5/27/11 at 6:44 pm to
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 5/27/11 at 6:44 pm to
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His triple doesn't prove shite because no one is saying he quit the whole game. It has been said multiple times in this thread that he quit in the fourth. Lebron played well early and got his triple double. They were still in it in the fourth and he quit.
At Cleveland's shitty, worthless fans. This is reason enough for Lebron to go on TV and flip a your way.

Who the hell are Cleveland fans to say that a triple double isn't enough?
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 5/27/11 at 6:51 pm to
I don't have blind hate...unlike many others I could care less about the decision and the fact that he left. I am still 100% convinced that he quit. I have absolutely no ill will for him now, I just *HAD* a problem with him quitting.

Its pretty obvious that you defend anything he does because he is hated by many.

On to your point about game stats.

Lebron triple double james has a triple double the first part of the game and with 5 minutes to go has 4 pts 2 assists and a rebound? You want to use that as proof that he didn't quit? THat may not prove that he did quit but it sure as hell doest prove that he didn't. Again they were down but still in it and he is the best player in the NBA. Thats reaching.

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He shot 4 threes all game, made 2. He made 2 of 3 threes in the 4th quarter. QUITTER!!


How man of those did he make in the last 5 minutes?


Posted by taylork37
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Posted on 5/27/11 at 6:55 pm to
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Who the hell are Cleveland fans to say that a triple double isn't enough?


I don't know who's post you are reading because that is terrible reading comprehension. If that is really what you got of that post.
This post was edited on 5/27/11 at 6:56 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/27/11 at 6:56 pm to
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Posted by UnluckyTiger
Last I checked, LeBron still hasn't won shite.




And if he wins 4 more games, then what?

You'll just crank up the next excuse about taking the easy route and so on and so forth.
Posted by jose canseco
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Posted on 5/27/11 at 6:57 pm to
not trying to compare Lebron with Jordan, by why does it get overlooked that Jordan quit on his team for 2 years to play baseball. Is it fair that he gets a pass when he screws his teammates and Chicago over for 2 entire seasons?

I would be pissed if Drew Brees quit to play tennis for a few years. i guess it helps that Jordan came back and won 3 more titles, but he still quit
Posted by shel311
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Posted on 5/27/11 at 7:00 pm to
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Lebron triple double james has a triple double the first part of the game and with 5 minutes to go has 4 pts 2 assists and a rebound?

Over 40 minutes that would average out to 28/16/8. What's the problem exactly? Logic, rational stuff. Thats what I mean here.

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How man of those did he make in the last 5 minutes?


I closed the tab but he was either 0 for 1 or didn't attempt any 3s in the final minute.

I'd bet my TD account that u thought he attempted wayyyyy more judging on your post about him sitting around the 3pt line just chucking 3s all game.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 5/27/11 at 7:01 pm to
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by why does it get overlooked that Jordan quit on his team for 2 years to play baseball.


DIFFERENT!! AND when he came back they set a record for the # of wins in a season. Get over it pal. MJ>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>BRON all day long. And ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by jose canseco
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 5/27/11 at 7:14 pm to
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DIFFERENT!! AND when he came back they set a record for the # of wins in a season. Get over it pal


Come down man...i know MJ is the GOAT. and like i said, i am not comparing the 2. not sure how it is deifferent, since i dont feel lebron ever quit. just asking why it is ok for jordan to quit on his team and no one says anything bad about it
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 5/27/11 at 7:17 pm to
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Over 40 minutes that would average out to 28/16/8. What's the problem exactly? Logic, rational stuff. Thats what I mean here.


I thought we were talking about Lebron "Clutch" James here? 5 minutes left in a playoff game against his biggest rivals, the best player in the NBA and that is what your saying proves he was giving all he had?

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I closed the tab but he was either 0 for 1 or didn't attempt any 3s in the final minute. I'd bet my TD account that u thought he attempted wayyyyy more judging on your post about him sitting around the 3pt line just chucking 3s all game



The final minute =/= the final 5 minutes.
Posted by sgallo3
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Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/27/11 at 7:23 pm to
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I thought we were talking about Lebron "Clutch" James here? 5 minutes left in a playoff game against his biggest rivals, the best player in the NBA and that is what your saying proves he was giving all he had?


dont you realize that Boston basically only had to defend Lebron. defending 1 guy with 5 makes it pretty hard for him to put up awesome numbers
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 5/27/11 at 7:25 pm to
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dont you realize that Boston basically only had to defend Lebron. defending 1 guy with 5 makes it pretty hard for him to put up awesome numbers


What about the triple double he already had?
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/27/11 at 8:00 pm to
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The final minute =/= the final 5 minutes.

Sorry meant the final 5 minutes.

Again, you said he stood around the 3pt line shooting 3s all game. I think it's pretty clearly your perception was off as he only shot 4 all game.

The LAST 3pt shot he took was with 7:09 left. So he didn't stand around the 3pt line and shoot 3s in the final 5 minutes minutes, not one single time. Again, it's all about perception, which isn't reality.
Posted by dukke v
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Posted on 5/27/11 at 8:05 pm to
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Again, you said he stood around the 3pt line shooting 3s all game. I think it's pretty clearly your perception was off as he only shot 4 all game.

The LAST 3pt shot he took was with 7:09 left. So he didn't stand around the 3pt line and shoot 3s in the final 5 minutes minutes, not one single time. Again, it's all about perception, which isn't reality.



THIS IS GOOD WORK!!!!!!!!!
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 5/27/11 at 8:16 pm to


Perception + 1 year of time may do that. I saw what I saw when it happened and not remembering the way it went down to a tee doesn't change what I saw then.

And since when is perception and reality mutually exclusive?

You can pretend to deny what a lot more people than me watched (people with no bias)with our own eyes, you ain't changing my mind.

Like I said before the amount of blind love for lebron and his actions isn't too far from the amount of blind hate.
Posted by shel311
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 5/27/11 at 8:21 pm to
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Perception + 1 year of time may do that. I saw what I saw when it happened and not remembering the way it went down to a tee doesn't change what I saw then.

Fair enough, but like you said said what you thought you saw wasn't actually what happened. So, it's all good.


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You can pretend to deny what a lot more people than me watched (people with no bias)with our own eyes, you ain't changing my mind.
I know that.

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Like I said before the amount of blind love for lebron and his actions isn't too far from the amount of blind hate.


Maybe. But I can only speak for myself. And everything I've ever said on here, I contend that not one bit of it was just blind support for Lebron, but every last thing I can back up by either facts or numbers that support my claim. My claims may not be the end all and not agreed on by everyone, but I don't think anyone can say I've ever just irrationally supported Lebron.

Not saying you said or even insinuated that, but just supporting my own cause.

Posted by RightKindaGuy
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 5/27/11 at 8:21 pm to
shel311 > taylork37
Posted by taylork37
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 5/27/11 at 8:30 pm to
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Fair enough, but like you said said what you thought you saw wasn't actually what happened. So, it's all good.


Seeing what happened overall and trying to prove it to somehow is quite a bit different. Even though I was off on the number of threes he took, none of those stats you threw out seemed to prove my overall point wrong. It just proved that I can't remember a game from a year ago to the tee.

Knowing how great LBJ is, if anything those stats, including the one 3 in the last 5 minutes of the game only help my argument.

Either way it is something that cannot be proven without a doubt so this is clearly going to go no where.

And I do have to ask, did you actually watch the game? You have been throwing out stats all night but can you comment on his overall demeanor and what you saw from him from the beginning and middle of the game to the last 5 min where I think he quit?


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RightKindaGuy


Welcome to the conversation.
This post was edited on 5/27/11 at 8:32 pm
Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
111123 posts
Posted on 5/27/11 at 8:39 pm to
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And I do have to ask, did you actually watch the game?
Of course.

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can you comment on his overall demeanor and what you saw from him from the beginning and middle of the game to the last 5 min where I think he quit?


I'm no body language expert so that's something that whatever I say is purely speculation.

What you perceived as quitting could have just been frustration, knowing that he alone couldn't beat a team that had the next 4 best players in the series.
Posted by KillerNut9
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/27/11 at 8:43 pm to
For me, the "quit/didn't give a frick" was obvious during game 5 in Cleveland. LeBron just settled for jumper after jumper and hardly attacked the rim. His style of play is obviously drive first and create, then shoot if nothing opens. He just kept front rimming everything and hardly ever attempted to drive.
Posted by Jumbeauxlaya
LSU
Member since Jan 2011
18083 posts
Posted on 5/27/11 at 10:39 pm to
Honestly from an outsider's point of view reading through this thread - it looks like shel is trying to reason with a bunch of either A) immature B) stubborn or C) just plain butthurt Cleveland fans.

sorry your owner was too cheap/stupid to bring lebron some better help.

no.. really I am, because if they had he would have already won 1 or 2 there and stayed.. and the world would love him instead of hate. but ohhhhhh well
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