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re: Penn State NCAA Sanctions thread - announcement at 8 CST

Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:34 am to
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:34 am to
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@CharlesRobinson: Penn State signing "consent decree" is NCAA-speak. What it means is that PSU was fully on board. These are basically self-imposed penalties.
Posted by Porky
Member since Aug 2008
19103 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:34 am to
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I think that's kind of the idea, eh? Don't cover up for child rapists, and your school won't have to worry about it.

Amiright?

Yes, you are right. Evil thrives where "good people" fail to take a stand.
This post was edited on 7/23/12 at 8:36 am
Posted by MikeyFL
Las Vegas, NV
Member since Sep 2010
9591 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:34 am to
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That was trying to punish Peterno and make sure he wasn't the winningest coach.


Exactly. They don't want him at the top of the record book.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27802 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:35 am to
I imagine a large chunk of the 60 will be coming from their share of B1G TV revenues.
Posted by 10888bge
H-Town
Member since Aug 2011
8421 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:35 am to
60 Mill is a new building or renovations to campus. Thats a whole lotta cheddar. I am curious as to where the money has to come from. If boosters get to pay it might raise some flags with all those people the NCAA has to hire to monitor them.
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:35 am to
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It was believed the NCAA Division I Board of Directors and/or the NCAA Executive Committee granted Emmert the authority to punish through the nontraditional methods


Ya vol, mein Fuhrer.

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"This is unique and this kind of power has never been tested or tried," the former chair said. "It's unprecedented to have this extensive power. This has nothing to do with the purpose of the infractions process."


Uh-oh. We all in trouble.

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A trustee said Penn State has hired Gene Marsh, a lawyer for Lightfoot, Franklin & White in Birmingham, Ala., and a former member and chair of the NCAA Infractions Committee.


Some organization bout' to get sued.

Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42449 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:35 am to
Sad thing is every other sport at Penn St will be affected, football is the economic engine and you could make the argument that all players in every sport should be allowed to transfer as well
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21662 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:36 am to
Why are there so many conflicting reports on the scholly losses? I've heard 40, 60, and 80 over 4 years. Seems to me that 10 per year for 4 years is 40.
Posted by JawjaTigah
Bizarro World
Member since Sep 2003
22497 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:36 am to
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These are some damn harsh penalties.
They didn't get the DP, but it must seem to PSU they got life in prison.
Yes. I think the NCAA did the right thing here. What happened at PSU was undesirable, intolerable, and just plain WRONG. Accountability is a b!tch, but the PSU leadership, coaches, and whoever knew and said nothing have brought the house down. Plain and simple. All suffer for peoples' wrongdoings sometimes. But this is about as close to justice as we're gonna get. Think about all those little boys.
Posted by TigerFanNKaty
texas
Member since Sep 2008
10232 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:37 am to
This whole thing is just sad. While I think the punishment is deserved I certainly don't take any pleasure from it. I really hope this somehow will help the real victims of Sandusky to somehow start to heal, I just don't see how though.
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61834 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:38 am to
They have a 65 scholly limit for 4 years. They essentially lose 20 per year.
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
54132 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:38 am to
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I don't really like Penn State covering up years of child molestation.
I do. That is clearly what I was trying to say.

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This "exercise of authority" is completely warranted.
Meh. I don't have any problem with Penn State suffering these sanctions or anything worse. It is actually a small amount of retribution that the school deserves. However, it never really was or should have been an NCAA issue, IMO.

PSU agreed with it and signed off on it, so there is no issue as it applies to this case. I thought I made clear in each of my posts that I was talking about the expansion of the NCAA's oversight/power and not the PSU incident specifically.
Posted by 10888bge
H-Town
Member since Aug 2011
8421 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:38 am to
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Some organization bout' to get sued.

Yeah cause that will help out PSU's brand. "Hey we support pedo's, we got punished, now we don't think we should be punished."-
Baseball 'bout to blow up on PSU campus.
Posted by OneMoreTime
Florida Gulf Coast Fan
Member since Dec 2008
61834 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:39 am to
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quote: A trustee said Penn State has hired Gene Marsh, a lawyer for Lightfoot, Franklin & White in Birmingham, Ala., and a former member and chair of the NCAA Infractions Committee.

Some organization bout' to get sued.
Penn st agreed with the sanctions. Not sure what grounds they'll have to sue.
Posted by ZereauxSum
Lot 23E
Member since Nov 2008
10176 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:39 am to
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and you could make the argument that all players in every sport should be allowed to transfer as well


I can get behind that.

I Wonder what an appropriate over/under would be on FB player transfers. I say 20 and I'd take the under.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27802 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:40 am to
They said from 25 to 15 which refers to their initial counter limit, and that is for 4 years. I didn't hear what their total annual limit will be capped at (from 85 to..).
Posted by Chicken
Jackassistan
Member since Aug 2003
21973 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:40 am to
guys, this thread is now anchored and the new stickied thread is where the discussion should go...thanks

Posted by CMBears1259
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
4020 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:40 am to
Don't have a problem with any of the sanctions except for vacating the wins. Got a big problem with that one, not so much for Joe Pa, moreso for the players that worked their asses off and now have nothing to show for their efforts on field.
Posted by bpfergu
Member since Jun 2011
3485 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:47 am to
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Don't have a problem with any of the sanctions except for vacating the wins. Got a big problem with that one, not so much for Joe Pa, moreso for the players that worked their asses off and now have nothing to show for their efforts on field.


I'd have to agree, but they obviously were making it so that Paterno wasn't the most winningest coach...but how do you do you take away his heritage and records while keeping the results of the hard-working student athletes intact?
Posted by Hog Leg
NWA
Member since Dec 2010
970 posts
Posted on 7/23/12 at 8:55 am to
WE ARE...transferring.
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