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re: Parkview Baptist vs Catholic High prediction thread

Posted on 9/6/13 at 12:50 am to
Posted by jwall3
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Posted on 9/6/13 at 12:50 am to
Parkview has the most classless fans of any team period. And I'm an alumn. Whenever they came to play at the school I coached at, it was unbearable. I can only assume "baptist" is a catchy label for rivalry with catholic and used to be redemptorist. It certainly doesn't mean humility and respect. That being said, PBS by 10 and at least 20 holds not called.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
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Posted on 9/6/13 at 5:45 am to
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Like the history of Dr. Griffin admitting under oath to the State Senate that she and her peers did no research prior to drafting the proposal and made the decision to draft the proposal based on "personal experience" and "emotional feeling?"

Or how about the fact that no public school representative could answer simple questions from the Senate like "is there any evidence that open enrollment gives private schools a statistical advantage?" Or "what is the breakdown of Louisiana high school athletes that play football at the next level compared between public and private schools?" Or "'Mr. Henderson, did anyone in your office advise the principals that it may be wise to actually do some research before proposing such drastic changes?"

Like that history?


No.. how evangel and eca got sent down to play in 1a and 2a respectively after 4a and 5a got tired of getting beat by them. and how several schools lobbied very hard for play in class rules, until katrina came along and eviscerated the catholic league. The Winnfield principal was the patsy for this recent thing.. but this recent thing is merely a reaction from what happened nearly a decade ago.
Posted by lsucoonass
shreveport and east texas
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 9/6/13 at 6:38 am to
hmmm when did this happen? when i played back in the late 90's (parkview and redemptorist were our district rivals) they had pretty classy fans. i also havent kept up with high school football in over a decade
Posted by LsuTool
Member since Oct 2009
34847 posts
Posted on 9/6/13 at 8:45 am to
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Parkview has the most classless fans of any team period. And I'm an alumn. Whenever they came to play at the school I coached at, it was unbearable. I can only assume "baptist" is a catchy label for rivalry with catholic and used to be redemptorist. It certainly doesn't mean humility and respect. That being said, PBS by 10 and at least 20 holds not called.


did you play the flute at PBS?
Posted by Mr. Brooks
Member since Jan 2013
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Posted on 9/6/13 at 9:31 am to
^^^This
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48309 posts
Posted on 9/6/13 at 10:04 am to
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No.. how evangel and eca got sent down to play in 1a and 2a respectively after 4a and 5a got tired of getting beat by them. and how several schools lobbied very hard for play in class rules,


And which principals proposed that changed? And who voted for it?

Again, Proposal 18 has absolutely nothing to do with Catholic School League. Hell, all of the schools in the Catholic School League voted against the proposal.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48309 posts
Posted on 9/6/13 at 10:05 am to
quote:

Parkview has the most classless fans of any team period. And I'm an alumn. Whenever they came to play at the school I coached at, it was unbearable. I can only assume "baptist" is a catchy label for rivalry with catholic and used to be redemptorist. It certainly doesn't mean humility and respect. That being said, PBS by 10 and at least 20 holds not called.


PBS fans are not that bad.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30531 posts
Posted on 9/6/13 at 10:44 am to
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Again, Proposal 18 has absolutely nothing to do with Catholic School League. Hell, all of the schools in the Catholic School League voted against the proposal.


YES. THEY DID... but what led us to that point is more important than that vote....

the problem is not solved just more isolated.
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
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Posted on 9/6/13 at 10:54 am to
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YES. THEY DID... but what led us to that point is more important than that vote....


So the LHSAA split into select and non-select because of the Catholic School League despite the fact that the Catholic School League did not vote to kick Evangel out of 5A and JC out of 4A, and the CSL voted against the split?

So I guess public school principals were acting in the best interest of the CSL?



Do you realize how asinine that sounds?

quote:

the problem is not solved just more isolated.


What problem?

That two programs in Louisiana run elite football programs?

That the last ten schools busted for illegal recruiting were public schools and not the schools being punished?

That public school principals don't understand basic statistics or how to conduct research?

Let me save you the time, Proposal 18 was crafted and passed for one reason . . . to give Louisiana public schools an easier road to winning state championships. It is the same "lowering the bar" that we've seen in public schools for decades.

If there really was an inherent advantage then why is football the only sport split? Private schools dominate all the other sports. Football and basketball are the only two sports were public schools win at a higher frequency than private schools. Furthermore, why are publics and privates only split for the postseason?

Posted by LSUvegasbombed
Red Stick
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 9/6/13 at 10:57 am to
Their are some trolls up in here!! PBS fans are far from being the most classless fans... You must have been picked on by your fellow classmates
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48309 posts
Posted on 9/6/13 at 10:59 am to
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PBS fans are far from being the most classless fans


Right, apparently whoever said that has never traveled to Ascension Parish for a high school football game.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30531 posts
Posted on 9/6/13 at 11:15 am to
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What problem?

That two programs in Louisiana run elite football programs?

That the last ten schools busted for illegal recruiting were public schools and not the schools being punished?


That public school principals don't understand basic statistics or how to conduct research?

Let me save you the time, Proposal 18 was crafted and passed for one reason . . . to give Louisiana public schools an easier road to winning state championships. It is the same "lowering the bar" that we've seen in public schools for decades.

If there really was an inherent advantage then why is football the only sport split? Private schools dominate all the other sports. Football and basketball are the only two sports were public schools win at a higher frequency than private schools. Furthermore, why are publics and privates only split for the postseason?


i posted plenty on the facts leading to the split starting with curtis and eca being forced down.. and who was behind that....

what happened with prop 18 was simply a symtpom

note since katrina play up in class has been shot down repeatedly until it benefited the catholic league (shaw, st aug and HC still have 4a numbers)...


i don't have the time or energy to spell it all out for you...

but if you want to see fireworks.. let class b,c, a,aa,aaa and aaaa get together and vote eca and curtis to 5a... you will see what i am talking about.
This post was edited on 9/6/13 at 11:18 am
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47568 posts
Posted on 9/6/13 at 11:37 am to
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let class b,c, a,aa,aaa and aaaa get together and vote eca and curtis to 5a... you will see what i am talking about.






1. so you move curtis and evangel to class 5A because "they win too much". what about the next hotshot school? do you move ouachita christian five years later? what if evangel sucks one day and they want to move back down?

2. how do you write a rule and design it so that those two are the only ones affected in one sport?

3. the principals like fairness, but they like tradition even more. classifications are determined by enrollment. Period. (districts can be determined by who's scared to play who though) That Curtis has 5 D1 players per year and some schools one in 50 years should have no impact on it.
This post was edited on 9/6/13 at 11:38 am
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30531 posts
Posted on 9/6/13 at 11:53 am to
owl that was strictly hypothetically..



IF.. certain 4a and 5a principals had not gotten together in 2004 and pushed curtis and eca back into 2a and 1a...

we would not have had prop 18 last year.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47568 posts
Posted on 9/6/13 at 12:11 pm to
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IF.. certain 4a and 5a principals had not gotten together in 2004 and pushed curtis and eca back into 2a and 1a...

we would not have had prop 18 last year.


so let's remake history and keep Curtis in 4A and Evangel in 5A (also eliminate Katrina)

Winnfield gets to the Dome in 2011, but instead of Curtis, they play Catholic of New Iberia who comes out of the Curtis/Evangel-less half of the bracket.

if they win, someone else would have lost to a select school (West St. John? Amite?) and would have been butthurt. remember that a select school doesn't have to be Curtis or Evangel to have an advantage over nonselect
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30531 posts
Posted on 9/6/13 at 12:25 pm to
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Winnfield gets to the Dome in 2011, but instead of Curtis, they play Catholic of New Iberia who comes out of the Curtis/Evangel-less half of the bracket.

if they win, someone else would have lost to a select school (West St. John? Amite?) and would have been butthurt. remember that a select school doesn't have to be Curtis or Evangel to have an advantage over nonselect



winnfield probably feels better about that...if they lose...

the winnfield principal did not act alone...

and the votes that passed prop 18 were from NON football playing schools.
Posted by BandFan
Central, LA
Member since Aug 2011
25 posts
Posted on 9/6/13 at 12:42 pm to
Sounds like you lost. Don't be a sore loser, it sets a bad example for your athletes.
Posted by BandFan
Central, LA
Member since Aug 2011
25 posts
Posted on 9/6/13 at 12:44 pm to
No way he was in the PBS band, they are not poor sports.
Posted by redfieldk717
Alec Box
Member since Oct 2011
28117 posts
Posted on 9/6/13 at 12:45 pm to
the bears are ganna put the holy ghost up in that arse
Posted by Antonio Moss
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
48309 posts
Posted on 9/6/13 at 12:56 pm to
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and the votes that passed prop 18 were from NON football playing schools.


You really have no idea what you're talking about. Prop 18 passes even without the B and C schools.
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