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re: OSU's win was the worst possible outcome for the BCS AND the 4-team playoff
Posted on 1/13/15 at 2:33 pm to ballscaster
Posted on 1/13/15 at 2:33 pm to ballscaster
Well most people only think the power 5 conferences matter so it was more of a compromise to allow the mid majors a chance.
Also win a conference tournament to prove you are a top team.
How do you say we determine top team the loved "eye test"
Also win a conference tournament to prove you are a top team.
How do you say we determine top team the loved "eye test"
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Posted on 1/13/15 at 3:37 pm to Colonel Flagg
quote:So your plan counts only a fraction of the regular season and openly compromises with idiots.
Well most people only think the power 5 conferences matter so it was more of a compromise to allow the mid majors a chance.
quote:A publicly accessible mathematical formula. No such formula is perfect, of course, but if all teams are given access to the formula, they are given an equal chance to navigate the formula as they see fit.
How do you say we determine top team the loved "eye test"
Posted on 1/13/15 at 4:41 pm to ballscaster
Well if you actually do six conference champions the schedule matters to your seeding and the mid majors.
I think it should be assessible to mid majors if we aren't going to make separate division of football. If you only do 5 then it will start some shite once a power 5 conference somehow gets left out.
I think it should be assessible to mid majors if we aren't going to make separate division of football. If you only do 5 then it will start some shite once a power 5 conference somehow gets left out.
This post was edited on 1/13/15 at 4:44 pm
Posted on 1/13/15 at 6:12 pm to slackster
8 teams will be next change. Sooner rather than later. The big 5 con champs and three at large . First round at high seeds home field then do what you did this yr.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 6:34 pm to Colonel Flagg
If you take the top 8 teams, it's accessible to everyone, and every game counts equally. You Clay Travises need to quit being distracted by conference affiliation. Auto-bids are a terrible, illogical idea until the amount of playoff teams significantly exceeds the amount of conferences.
And HELLO?!?! Not every team is in a conference.
And HELLO?!?! Not every team is in a conference.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 6:55 pm to ballscaster
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Auto-bids are a terrible, illogical idea until the amount of playoff teams significantly exceeds the amount of conferences.
Not really. The argument there is "Win your conference or shut up." And at-large/wild card bids allow a team a mulligan when it didn't take care of business on the field.
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And HELLO?!?! Not every team is in a conference.
Notre Dame can join the ACC as a full member or shut up.
Of course, you could also do top 6 conference champs, with independents counting as a conference. So if ND (or BYU, the only other realistic possibility) is ranked higher than the #6 conference champ they're in. Far from perfect but those concerns can be accommodated.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 7:01 pm to Bestbank Tiger
quote:And it's a dumb argument. It accounts for a fraction of the season. And not all teams are in a conference.
Not really. The argument there is "Win your conference or shut up."
quote:Nah, they can stay Indy. There are smart people such as myself who can figure these things out.
Notre Dame can join the ACC as a full member or shut up.
Your idea just isn't good. You're distracted by conferences. Just take the top teams. It's all good that way. If you go 9-4 and win the ACC, enjoy your well deserved bowl game.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 7:44 pm to ballscaster
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Posted on 1/13/15 at 7:49 pm to TheIrishFro
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I'm guessing you would be against this. Why?
Because a team could be 0-4 OOC and still get an auto bid.
Why ignore 4 games during the regular season?
Posted on 1/13/15 at 8:06 pm to KosmoCramer
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This post was edited on 6/11/23 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 1/13/15 at 8:10 pm to TheIrishFro
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What is the point of a playoff?
To put the most deserving teams in.
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to reward teams that do the best with a spot?
Huh?
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or to determine the best team?
That would be the ultimate goal, but not a requirement.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 8:20 pm to KosmoCramer
quote:That.
Because a team could be 0-4 OOC and still get an auto bid.
Top _ teams. That's the best system.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 8:21 pm to ballscaster
So then what's your stance on conference championship games. They are inherently unfair in your set-up.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 8:22 pm to KosmoCramer
What's unfair about conference championship games?
Posted on 1/13/15 at 8:39 pm to ballscaster
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What's unfair about conference championship games?
Let's say it's a 8 team playoff.
Hypothetically, LSU goes 11-1 with their one loss going to Alabama. Alabama lost to Mississippi who is in the top 10, but that's their only loss. Alabama wins the tiebreaker and has to play in the CCG while LSU sits at home and is basically a lock to make the playoffs.
There are two undefeated teams around the country along with 6 other one loss teams aside from LSU and Alabama.
How can you reward a team that doesn't have to play an extra game if Alabama were to lose in the CCG? That's not fair.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 8:57 pm to KosmoCramer
It's perfectly fair. Conference membership and, therefore, participation in the drafting of conference bylaws both are voluntary. If you choose to be in a conference that has you play a 13th game if you so qualify, that is your prerogative and not the rest of the world's problem. Your use of the word "unfair" is incorrect.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 8:58 pm to ballscaster
Oh, ok.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:01 pm to ballscaster
I think conference championships are an opportunity to help your case. Can get you a higher seed, can get you in if you aren't already, and also just winning a conference championship is an awesome thing. It's a great event.
Plus, losing won't always knock you out if you're playing another good team.
Plus, losing won't always knock you out if you're playing another good team.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 9:05 pm to BayouBengals03
I don't think they are terrible. And most of the time, you're playing a lesser team if your name is in the ring for the playoff (especially in a conference not named the SEC).
They can be a disadvantage though. Just talking out loud.
They can be a disadvantage though. Just talking out loud.
Posted on 1/13/15 at 10:30 pm to slackster
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It would. Every one of those teams I listed were auto-qualifiers as conference champions.
The instant you put some stipulation on which 4, 6, or 8 teams get in, you've lost me. If it just so happens that 4 of the 8 teams are from the Big 10, then so be it. Conference champs is an awful, awful idea.
What if there was a stipulation that the auto qualifiers can'thave more than 2 losses? If your conference champion has 3 losses, your conference loses out and there is another at large bid.
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