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re: Ohio State has a better record and tougher schedule than TCU and Baylor
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:48 pm to ballscaster
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:48 pm to ballscaster
no, I still use every game on the schedule. For example, I look at both Buffalo and Kent St and put them in the bucket of, "why the frick are these games even played"
you see these games and then extrapolate into massive amounts of more data.
you see these games and then extrapolate into massive amounts of more data.
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 12:49 pm
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:48 pm to tiger25
quote:Your argument accounts for both teams having an 0-1 record. I don't think either of those teams belongs in the playoff given those facts.
Ok so
Team 1 loss vs top 10 team on the road
Or
Team 2 loss to 6-6 team at home
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:49 pm to ballscaster
"ranked more highly"
I think higher or highest would be appropriate here.
I think higher or highest would be appropriate here.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:49 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Team 1 30-7 Team 2 31-24 Which team do you think is better by the final score vs a common opponent?
Team 1: At home in the heat*
Team 2: Away in heavy snow, up 31-14 with 7 minutes left in the 4th*
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:49 pm to lsupride87
quote:^^^Useless, biased opinion.
no, I still use every game on the schedule. For example, I look at both Buffalo and Kent St and put them in the bucket of, "why the frick are these games even played"
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:51 pm to cubsfan5150
quote:You're mistaken. "Ranked" is a verb. Its modifier must be an adverb or adverb phrase, like "more highly," rather than an adjective like "higher" or "highest."
"ranked more highly"
I think higher or highest would be appropriate here.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:51 pm to ballscaster
Ohio State in in ONLY because the BIG 12 is full of dumbasses and didn't add 2 more teams to have a conference championship game.
This year was a perfect example of why each Power 5 conference should be required to have one. It isn't fair that TCU or Baylor didn't have to risk losing an extra game, but yet if Oregon, Alabama, or Ohio State lost yesterday, they would have been out because of that extra game.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:51 pm to BuckeyesAndBulldogs
Team 1 loss vs top 10 team on the road
Or
Team 2 loss to 6-6 team at home
Or
Team 2 loss to 6-6 team at home
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:52 pm to Indfanfromcol
quote:A lot of truth is here. If Baylor had one extra win--vs. Kansas State, presumably--their SOS would be higher, and they'd have a better record. It is likely Baylor would be ahead of Ohio State in this case.
Ohio State in in ONLY because the BIG 12 is full of dumbasses and didn't add 2 more teams to have a conference championship game.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:53 pm to ballscaster
bullshite, they play a shitty arse schedule too..tcu and Baylor would run OSU off the field..but they will be one and done so doesn't matter I guess..
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:53 pm to ballscaster
Results vs teams that are ranked similarly.
Team 1 41-20
Team 2 49-37
Team 1 41-20
Team 2 49-37
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:55 pm to TigerBait2008
quote:That's a matter of opinion, but the numbers do nothing other than indicate that TCU's and Baylor's were, mathematically speaking, shittier.
bullshite, they play a shitty arse schedule too
quote:Another matter of opinion, and irrelevant to the argument I am presenting.
tcu and Baylor would run OSU off the field
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:56 pm to ballscaster
No, you're describing Ohio State, not ranked.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:56 pm to tiger25
quote:Your argument accounts for both teams being 1-0. Did they not play anymore games?
Results vs teams that are ranked similarly.
Team 1 41-20
Team 2 49-37
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:56 pm to TigerBait2008
quote:
bullshite, they play a shitty arse schedule too..tcu and Baylor would run OSU off the field..but they will be one and done so doesn't matter I guess..
If tOSU played WVU's schedule this year they lose 3 games at least.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:57 pm to tiger25
Team 1 struggled against what turned out to be some pretty bad teams.
Now, to be fair, OSU played a shite schedule too but TCU's primary problem is that if you want to overcome the team with the same # of losses as you playing in a bad conference, you sort of can't be in a f'n awful conference yourself and lose to the ONLY good team you played against.
You make it a toss up at that point. Let's be blunt, if TCU makes it in, OSU would have just as many things to point out how they got screwed.
I really think that Baylor plays in a title game against say, OK and whips them, they get in over OSU. Instead, OSU got to have the stage to themselves and f'n slaughtered a decent team. Wisky aint great, but, they're not Samford.
Now, to be fair, OSU played a shite schedule too but TCU's primary problem is that if you want to overcome the team with the same # of losses as you playing in a bad conference, you sort of can't be in a f'n awful conference yourself and lose to the ONLY good team you played against.
You make it a toss up at that point. Let's be blunt, if TCU makes it in, OSU would have just as many things to point out how they got screwed.
I really think that Baylor plays in a title game against say, OK and whips them, they get in over OSU. Instead, OSU got to have the stage to themselves and f'n slaughtered a decent team. Wisky aint great, but, they're not Samford.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:59 pm to ballscaster
Considering that team one has been more impressive in each of the 3 instances that just makes it TCU > Ohio state on common opponents losses and results vs commonly ranked or rated teams.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:00 pm to cubsfan5150
quote:Ohio State is ranked more highly than TCU."
No, you're describing Ohio State, not ranked.
"more highly" modifies "is ranked." Stop trying to give English lessons when you don't know what the frick you're talking about, kid.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:01 pm to tiger25
quote:It's good, hard evidence. It's a fraction of what counts.
Considering that team one has been more impressive in each of the 3 instances that just makes it TCU > Ohio state on common opponents losses and results vs commonly ranked or rated teams.
Posted on 12/7/14 at 1:02 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
I really think that Baylor plays in a title game against say, OK and whips them, they get in over OSU. Instead, OSU got to have the stage to themselves and f'n slaughtered a decent team. Wisky aint great, but, they're not Samford.
This.
I think it is easy to see that if TCU or Baylor won a conference championship game, they would be in the playoffs.
If a conference championship shouldn't matter, then it shouldn't matter if Bama, Oregon, or Ohio State lost in their games yesterday.
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