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re: Ohio State has a better record and tougher schedule than TCU and Baylor

Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:19 pm to
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:19 pm to
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this is the fricking stupidest shite. Stop posting this

It's an equitable record of the game results. Sorry, but they count. I know you don't like what the numbers suggest, but that's not my problem.

When your opponents and opponents' opponents don't win as many games as Ohio State's, you almost always have to have a better record than Ohio State to be ranked ahead of Ohio State.
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 12:22 pm
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:21 pm to
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In your moronic stat,
It isn't mine.
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a 4-8 win for ohio st is just as important as their win over Wisky and Mich st.
I see you don't understand how numbers work.
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It is moronic

You don't get it, and you are frustrated. Go away and calm down.
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:22 pm to
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Ohio State has a better record and tougher schedule than TCU and BaylorThat's why Ohio State is ranked more highly. There's your answer. Deal with it.


I think its more about tv ratings........
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:25 pm to
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I think its more about tv ratings........

When the tv darling has a better record and a tougher schedule, I guess that doesn't really have to even factor in.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95013 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:26 pm to
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You don't get it, and you are frustrated. Go away and calm down.
No, i get it. I would look at the schedules and actually judge how the teams did against quality teams. A horrible 4-8 team and horrible 3-9 team is viewed the same and not paid attention too
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:29 pm to
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A horrible 4-8 team and horrible 3-9 team is viewed the same and not paid attention too
And that's why your opinion isn't really worth anything. You are selective regarding what evidence you'll consider, so your argument is incomplete and suggests either heavy bias or ignorance on your part.
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 12:30 pm
Posted by StraightCashHomey21
Aberdeen,NC
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:32 pm to
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Despite this, Ohio State has a better record vs. a tougher schedule.



wut

VT is awful
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95013 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:32 pm to
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And that's why your opinion isn't really worth anything. You are selective regarding what evidence you'll consider, so your argument is incomplete and suggests either heavy bias or ignorance on your part.
Whatever.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95013 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:33 pm to
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wut
Watch out, here comes the opponents opponents opppnetns winning % stat on yo arse boy
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:34 pm to
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wut

VT is awful

1/13 of their schedule.
Posted by Slapouttiger
alabama
Member since Jun 2011
3087 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:34 pm to
Ohio St was picked from past history and tradition. If. TCU had the tradition they'd be in. And whoever don't think so is blind
Posted by tiger25
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
2197 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:36 pm to
Two teams play the same opponent and here are the scores of those games.

Team 1 30-7
Team 2 31-24

Which team do you think is better by the final score vs a common opponent?
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:37 pm to
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Watch out, here comes the opponents opponents opppnetns winning % stat on yo arse boy

This.

Unless you can prove that the numbers I've provided are drastically miscalculated, you won't be able to refute the fact that the statistics I provided are the general framework of a basic argument in terms of ranking the three teams (and all 128, for that matter). Whether or not all the games matter is not up for debate--obviously they do. You've nothing to gain intellectually from arguing against that.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:38 pm to
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Ohio St was picked from having a better record and tougher schedule. If. TCU had a better record and tougher schedule they'd be in. And whoever don't think so is blind

Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:40 pm to
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Two teams play the same opponent and here are the scores of those games.

Team 1 30-7
Team 2 31-24

Which team do you think is better by the final score vs a common opponent?
In a vacuum, the first team. This accounts for exactly 8% of these teams' collective schedule.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95013 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:40 pm to
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Ohio St was picked from having a better record and tougher schedule. If. TCU had a better record and tougher schedule they'd be in. And whoever don't think so is blind
i think it was clear Baylor had the tougher schedule. And before you post your stat, you and I both know, a 4-8 or 3-9 team wont effect the way any rational person views schedule strength. I view both schedules rationally, by seeing what quality teams are on the schedule who actually have competitive football teams. If that makes me stupid because I dont follow a stat like a drone, so be it
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:42 pm to
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i think it was clear Baylor had the tougher schedule. And before you post your stat, you and I both know, a 4-8 or 3-9 team wont effect the way any rational person views schedule strength. I view both schedules rationally, by seeing what quality teams are on the schedule who actually have competitive football teams. If that makes me stupid because I dont follow a stat like a drone, so be it
Good eye test, man. Good eye test.

Note that I haven't said that Ohio State was better. But year in and year out, when one team gets over another in a huge controversy, it's the team with the better record and/or higher SOS. Ohio State fared better in these two categories than did either of the other two; thus, there is no reason to suspect any screwjob here. Ohio State has a better record. Their opponents have a better record. Their opponents' opponents have a better record. All this counts. Every bit of it. That's why games are played--so they count.

You have a six-game argument you've drafted to fit your opinion. It's interesting, but incomplete.
This post was edited on 12/7/14 at 12:45 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
95013 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:45 pm to
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Good eye test, man. Good eye test.

Not an eye test really. I am still using on field results to judge what i consider a quality team.
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
26861 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:46 pm to
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Not an eye test really. I am still using some on field results to fit my argument.

Posted by tiger25
Alabama
Member since Nov 2009
2197 posts
Posted on 12/7/14 at 12:46 pm to
Ok so

Team 1 loss vs top 10 team on the road

Or

Team 2 loss to 6-6 team at home
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