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re: Official MSB Baseball HOF Results Thread™: Maddux, Glavine, Thomas elected!
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:20 pm to medtiger
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:20 pm to medtiger
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I'm actually ok with this line of thinking. At least he made up his mind and won't vote for anyone from the steroid era. I totally disagree with him, but at least he isn't cherry picking who he think used and who he think didn't like some of these other idiots.
So when does he have a vote again when nothing but Steroid Era players are up for a vote? Why even have a vote if you're not going to use them?
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Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:21 pm to medtiger
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quote:I forget who but there was a sportswriter somewhere that said he wouldn't vote for Maddux because he played during the steroid era. He didn't accuse him of using, just playing during the era. Idiot I'm actually ok with this line of thinking. At least he made up his mind and won't vote for anyone from the steroid era. I totally disagree with him, but at least he isn't cherry picking who he think used and who he think didn't like some of these other idiots.
But putting up those numbers as a pitcher in a juiced era would make him and Tom G more of HOFers, IMO
This post was edited on 1/8/14 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:21 pm to medtiger
jack morris was still pitching for the first 8 years of maddux's career. clemens had already won 2 cy youngs i think when morris retired. bonds had won an mvp before he retired.
morris pitched in the steroid era, no question.
he just shouldn't have turned in a ballot if he was going to be like this
morris pitched in the steroid era, no question.
he just shouldn't have turned in a ballot if he was going to be like this
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:21 pm to medtiger
Griffey 2016 baby!! 
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ETA: Griffey, Piazza and Smoltz will be elected
Sorry Hoffman :(
\ ETA: Griffey, Piazza and Smoltz will be elected
Sorry Hoffman :(
This post was edited on 1/8/14 at 1:23 pm
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:21 pm to Prominentwon
He used his only on Morris
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:21 pm to Prominentwon
I'm shocked Thomas got in so easily- after all, he hit home runs so according to writers' logic, he's tainted by the steroid era
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:23 pm to REG861
Him playing football and being big already helped his case
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:24 pm to medtiger
quote:
'm actually ok with this line of thinking. At least he made up his mind and won't vote for anyone from the steroid era. I totally disagree with him, but at least he isn't cherry picking who he think used and who he think didn't like some of these other idiots.
except people looked back at his voting history and he has already voted for steroid era players. he's a goon.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:24 pm to Baloo
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Hideo Nomo 6 (1.1) 1
Luis Gonzalez 5 (0.9) 1
Eric Gagne 2 (0.4) 1
J.T. Snow 2 (0.4) 1
Armando Benitez 1 (0.2) 1
Jacque Jones 1 (0.2) 1
Kenny Rogers 1 (0.2) 1
I mean really? These guys had votes to be inducted into the baseball Hall of Fame? Writers actually voted for these guys.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:25 pm to tduecen
quote:
He used his only on Morris
quote:
ack morris was still pitching for the first 8 years of maddux's career. clemens had already won 2 cy youngs i think when morris retired. bonds had won an mvp before he retired.
morris pitched in the steroid era, no question.
he just shouldn't have turned in a ballot if he was going to be like this
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:26 pm to Prominentwon
Some writers will vote for a player out of respect to the player and him having a career. I am ok with that but this ballot was stacked and some deserving people were left off. Of course with 10 slots and a lot of writers who didn't even fill in 10 names I can't blame it all on those guys
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:26 pm to barry
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veterans committee will eventually put him in unfortunately.
am I missing something that this guy should be in the HOF? Hall of very good at best IMO.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:27 pm to tduecen
Just about everyone lost ground due to the crowded ballot:
Bagwell 54.3 -5.3
Raines 46.1 -6.1
Clemens 35.4 -2.2
Bonds 34.7 -1.5
Smith 29.9 -27.9
Schilling 29.2 -9.6
Edgar 25.2 -10.7
Trammell 20.8 -13.8
McGriff 11.0 -5.9
McGwire 11.0 -5.9
Walker 10.2 -11.4
Mattingly 8.2 -5.0
Sosa 7.2 -5.3
Only Piazza and Biggio picked up votes. Which leads me to believe they will both eventually be inducted.
Bagwell 54.3 -5.3
Raines 46.1 -6.1
Clemens 35.4 -2.2
Bonds 34.7 -1.5
Smith 29.9 -27.9
Schilling 29.2 -9.6
Edgar 25.2 -10.7
Trammell 20.8 -13.8
McGriff 11.0 -5.9
McGwire 11.0 -5.9
Walker 10.2 -11.4
Mattingly 8.2 -5.0
Sosa 7.2 -5.3
Only Piazza and Biggio picked up votes. Which leads me to believe they will both eventually be inducted.
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:29 pm to Moustache
yeah jack morris is not a hall of famer
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:33 pm to Prominentwon
Nomo I can see because didn't he kinda start the whole asians to the MLB movement?
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:33 pm to Baloo
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This post was edited on 12/27/21 at 10:56 am
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:34 pm to barry
What's the max number of players a writer can vote for?
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:34 pm to quail man
quote:He should be left out for this sole reason
Nomo I can see because didn't he kinda start the whole asians to the MLB movement?
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:35 pm to LSUJuice
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This post was edited on 12/27/21 at 10:58 am
Posted on 1/8/14 at 1:35 pm to LSUJuice
10. quite a few people took biggio off for others because of the arbitrary limit
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