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NSU & SFA Had to Cancel Chief Caddo

Posted on 9/14/23 at 8:47 am
Posted by Hat Tricks
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Posted on 9/14/23 at 8:47 am
tl;dr: cancel culture ends a 6 decade old tradition of two football teams playing for a wooden Indian trophy.

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By DOUG IRELAND, Journal Sports

When the football teams from Northwestern State and Stephen F. Austin meet for the first time in four seasons Saturday evening at Turpin Stadium, they’ll play without the largest trophy in sports at stake, lacking the regional and national fanfare accompanying the rivalry for six decades.

Officials from both universities decided to retire a wooden statue known as “Chief Caddo” which has gone to the winner of the NSU-SFA football game since 1961. At 7-foot-6, 320 pounds, the “Chief” was the biggest physical prize globally in sports, not just college football. They said Wednesday a decision on “how best to commemorate this rivalry” will be determined by a combination of students, athletic staff and the university presidents.

For much of the historic series, the schools were in the same conference, first the Gulf Star (1983-86) and then the Southland (1987-2021), and during that time the NSU-SFA football game concluded the regular season schedule just before Thanksgiving each year.

As the “Battle for Chief Caddo” was staged on the same weekend as other storied college football rivalries, such as Ohio State-Michigan, Harvard-Yale and other time-honored series, it garnered coverage from national media and was nearly uniformly featured on ESPN’s popular GameDay Saturday morning show.

Northwestern president Dr. Marcus Jones and Stephen F. Austin interim president Gina Oglesbee issued a brief joint statement announcing the decision Wednesday afternoon through their respective athletic media relations offices. Subsequent rampant posters on social media decried the move, although others offered differing perspectives.

The statue and the name “Chief Caddo” have been retired since the last football meeting in 2019, the schools’ leaders said, although there was no public acknowledgement of that until Wednesday’s statement. A letter dated November 16, 2020 from Tamara M. Francis, chairman of The Caddo Nation of Oklahoma, and an April 19, 2021 NSU Student Government Association resolution both requested the tradition be discontinued. It was unclear when exactly the decision was reached.

Stephen F. Austin won the 2019 meeting in Natchitoches, and therefore retained the trophy until the next matchup, which was expected to be the following year until the COVID-19 pandemic struck and few colleges – SFA yes, NSU no – played football that fall. The following spring, SFA withdrew from the Southland Conference to join the Western Athletic Conference, and the rivalry game was suddenly off the schedule.

Former NSU athletic director Greg Burke and his SFA counterpart, Ryan Ivey, later agreed to resume the series with a 2023 game in Natchitoches and a 2025 meeting in Nacogdoches, Texas.

Officials at SFA last week told Chris Mycoskie of ESPN+ that the statue was no longer on display and said it is in storage. The future of the statue is uncertain.

A combination of factors led to the statue being retired, including sensitivity to the region’s Native American population, along with the NCAA’s emphasis on eliminating mascots and traditions which some consider demeaning. The issue quietly drew serious consideration just over a decade ago, during the administration of NSU’s longest-serving president, Dr. Randy Webb.

A couple of nearby universities, Arkansas State and UL Monroe, jettisoned Indian mascots during that time. Prominent professional sports franchises in the NFL (the former Washington Redskins) and Major League Baseball (formerly the Cleveland Indians) have adopted new brands. Other pro teams (the Atlanta Braves) and major college powers (Florida State Seminoles) have not.

In 1960, the universities began the tradition when they agreed to commission a statue of a mythical Native American chief whose tribe was settled in the locations that later became the English-speaking communities of Natchitoches and Nacogdoches, where Northwestern and Stephen F. Austin are located.

The purpose was to pay tribute to the Native Americans who not only first settled the region, but provided safety for the early white settlers in the area. Historians say that if not for the Caddo tribe, the Spanish and French colonists who came to the region would not have survived onslaughts of Apache and Commanche warriors from the west and the Natchez from the east. Also, French and Spanish writers of the era reported Caddo chiefs were master diplomats who made it possible for the two European colonists to live as neighbors while their mother nations were at war against each other.

The statement issued by the presidents late Wednesday afternoon:

“As the Northwestern State and Stephen F. Austin football teams prepare to face off this Saturday, they do so with a focus on embracing our rich history and shared heritage while looking forward to the future.

“Following the teams’ most recent meeting in the 2019 season finale, the antiquated wooden statue known as ‘Chief Caddo,’ which was awarded to the winner of the NSU-SFA football game since 1961, was retired.

“The universities are engaged in ongoing discussions about how best to commemorate this nearly century-old rivalry, which began in 1924. Student representatives, athletics staff and presidents of both institutions will play pivotal roles in shaping this commemoration.

“The teams are scheduled to complete a two-year, home-and-home contract with a 2025 game at Stephen F. Austin.

“Northwestern State President Dr. Marcus Jones and Stephen F. Austin Interim President Gina Oglesbee made the joint announcement.”
Posted by Jack Ruby
Member since Apr 2014
22776 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 8:52 am to
Maybe they should just pass around a real Caddo Chief now and that will make the "activists" happy..
Posted by tigerfan84
Member since Dec 2003
20278 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 8:56 am to
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42619 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:02 am to
a bar needs to buy that for display
Posted by tigerfan84
Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:12 am to
Posted by nes2010
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:15 am to
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The loser of the 1961 game would have a tree chopped down from its nearby forests to be sent to the winning school, who would have a statue carved. The Demons won that 1961 game 35-19 and SFA delivered a 2,000-pound black gum log to Northwestern. Wood carver Harold Green of Logansport spent some 230 hours on the statue. He was named "Chief Caddo" to honor the native Americans who not only first settled the two communities, but also provided safety for the early white settlers in the area. Historians say had it not been for the Caddo Indians, the Spanish and French colonists who came to the area would not have survived the onslaughts of the Apache and Commanche warriors from the west and the Natchez from the east. Also, French and Spanish writers of the time said certain wise Caddo chiefs made it possible for the two European colonies to live as neighbors while their mother countries were at war against each other.


Pretty cool story.
Posted by StringMusic
Metaire, LA
Member since Dec 2006
621 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:23 am to
So it’s an FBI
Freaking Big Indian

I don’t see a problem
Posted by DomincDecoco
of no fixed abode
Member since Oct 2018
10878 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:26 am to
How bout they rename it Marc, they can play for a wooden carved trophy named Marc.

Much less offensive.

This sucks cause I recall this being in our field house and I would slap it as I walked by in early 90s. frickin world goin to shite
Posted by StringMusic
Metaire, LA
Member since Dec 2006
621 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:28 am to
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Officials at SFA last week told Chris Mycoskie of ESPN+ that the statue was no longer on display and said it is in storage.


Sounds like something Mitch Landreau would do.
Posted by Palo Gaucho
Benton
Member since Jul 2013
3334 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:39 am to
No coincedence that SFA is transitioning to the University of Texas system.
Posted by Got Blaze
Youngsville
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:39 am to
This world is such a joke.

Posted by WPBTiger
Parts Unknown
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Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:39 am to
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18500 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:53 am to
I was at NSU 00-04. Football team was good then. That trophy is huge.
Posted by tigerfan84
Member since Dec 2003
20278 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:55 am to
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I was at NSU 00-04


03-07
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
57263 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 9:59 am to
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He was named "Chief Caddo" to honor the native Americans
Gotta put a stop to that. Horrific.
Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12338 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 10:16 am to
Always odd when people willingly desire to erase their own history.

Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
98188 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 10:19 am to
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At 7-foot-6, 320 pounds


Can he shoot free throws?
Posted by Upshift Downshift
Red Stick
Member since Feb 2022
363 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 10:22 am to
Reminds me of a random fact: There's a wooden statue of Don Quixote inside the CoCo Marina restaurant in Cocodrie.
Posted by white perch
the bright, happy side of hell
Member since Apr 2012
7136 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 10:44 am to
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I was at NSU 00-04
03-07


99-03

Fork ‘em Demons
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
34673 posts
Posted on 9/14/23 at 10:46 am to
82-84
And they're not "embracing" history, they're erasing it.
This post was edited on 9/14/23 at 10:49 am
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