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re: Northwestern Should Hire David Shaw
Posted on 7/13/23 at 12:29 pm to Buckeye Backer
Posted on 7/13/23 at 12:29 pm to Buckeye Backer
I think that would be an incredibly lazy hire. Shaw lost his stuff, and just because we’re talking 2 academic places doesn’t validate the passive hire.
Get someone young and hungry like Jamie Chadwell. He’d take it because the money is legit and 8 wins gets you a big time gig
Get someone young and hungry like Jamie Chadwell. He’d take it because the money is legit and 8 wins gets you a big time gig
This post was edited on 7/13/23 at 12:30 pm
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Posted on 7/13/23 at 1:08 pm to Buckeye Backer
David Shaw inherited a program Harbaugh built and after five years, has managed to go
4-8
4-2
3-9
3-9
4-8
4-2
3-9
3-9
Posted on 7/13/23 at 1:48 pm to TheDeathValley
You seem to be greatly confused on when Harbaugh left
Posted on 7/13/23 at 2:12 pm to Raoul Stimulato
quote:
Get someone young and hungry like Jamie Chadwell. He’d take it because the money is legit and 8 wins gets you a big time gig
Zero chance northwestern is hiring a coach from liberty
Chadwell is going to end up in the SEC or ACC
Posted on 7/13/23 at 2:43 pm to Buckeye Backer
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Would be a perfect match. He made Stanford relevant. Stanford and Northwestern are the same kind of schools when it comes to academics and culture. Seems like it would be a good natural fit.
I suppose if they were resigned to inevitable decline. Shaw oversaw the devolution of Stanford football, not its ascension to any new heights.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 2:58 pm to BoardReader
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Shaw oversaw the devolution of Stanford football, not its ascension to any new heights.
He's only the 3rd Stanford coach to win three conference titles, the 2nd to win two Rose Bowls, and he got the program to their highest final ranking since before Pearl Harbor.
Posted on 7/13/23 at 3:00 pm to Raoul Stimulato
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Get someone young and hungry like Jamie Chadwell. He’d take it because the money is legit and 8 wins gets you a big time gig
Chadwell can hold out for something better. Northwestern is going to end up with someone like Joe Moorhead (currently Akron HC).
Posted on 7/13/23 at 3:01 pm to Ostrich
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They should go after Bob Stoops
Posted on 7/13/23 at 4:37 pm to Buckeye Backer
Spitballin here. What about Sean Lewis? Former Kent St hc now oc at Colorado, has Midwest ties
Posted on 7/14/23 at 1:26 am to saintsfan22
quote:
You seem to be greatly confused on when Harbaugh left
How do you figure. Shaw sustained for five years then Stanford fell off. I was 100% accurate in what I said.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 1:33 am to TheDeathValley
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How do you figure. Shaw sustained for five years then Stanford fell off. I was 100% accurate in what I said
As a Stanford fan whose watched most games over the last 25 years, you're not 100% accurate. Not even close.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:13 am to AwesomeSauce
quote:
Skip Holtz would be a great add here. He's going to run a clean program
They may not be great on the field, but I can assure you he won’t allow any of the hazing BS
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:35 am to wildtigercat93
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That job might be completely radio active in the short term
Anchored down by academics in a big boy conference, following a legend of the school who had a relatively good level of success so you can’t exactly have zero expectation, adding on top of the whole hazing thing that will likely lead to a mass exodus of the roster either way, and since they have 42 mil tied up in litigation with Fitz I doubt they are going to want to pay very much for a coach either
Normally this would be a total interim coach situation, but can’t really do that with this one so I think they’ll end up with a real young guy or a real old guy looking for one last run
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Posted on 7/14/23 at 9:53 am to Raoul Stimulato
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What about Sean Lewis? Former Kent St hc now oc at Colorado, has Midwest ties
I think by the time December and January roll around, he's going to be a candidate for bigger gigs than Northwestern. I don't think people really understand how incredible of a job Lewis did at Kent State. That program has five bowl appearances in its history and Lewis was the coach for two of them even though he was only there for four real seasons (five if you count whatever 2020 was). Also, he's only 37 and runs a really good offensive scheme. Kent State is one of the toughest jobs in America with a very financially strapped athletic department; there's a reason their head coach left to be an offensive coordinator at a bottom feeder Pac 12 school.
Northwestern doesn't feel like a job that an up and comer should consider right now. That might be tough sledding for a few years. I think they should go after someone a little older who isn't looking to use them as a stepping stone because they're going to need some stability.
This post was edited on 7/14/23 at 9:55 am
Posted on 7/14/23 at 10:03 am to Downeast12
quote:Oh he definitely won't have them winning B1G championships, but he can win some games, he has shown at ECU and LTU he can coach a team that can at least stay on the field with the big boys, and he'll clean house. Right now they need a clean house and a coach that will have them winning 5-7 games within a couple seasons. Hire him for one recruiting cycle (4 years), and let him do just that and put the program in a position where it's not embarrassing the school. No scandals, and a bowl game within a couple years. That's all they need for a little while.
They may not be great on the field
Posted on 7/14/23 at 12:19 pm to Buckeye Backer
Dan Mullen hates recruiting and won’t have to at NW as their academic requirements will prevent him from having to get into highly competitive recruiting battles
He can get 2 and 3 stars to win 7-8 games a year
Does well when he has low expectations
They might be able to do better but definitely could do worse
He can get 2 and 3 stars to win 7-8 games a year
Does well when he has low expectations
They might be able to do better but definitely could do worse
Posted on 7/14/23 at 5:43 pm to WaltTeevens
quote:
As a Stanford fan whose watched most games over the last 25 years, you're not 100% accurate. Not even close.
Please enlighten me then on where I was “wrong”
Harbaugh went
4-8
5-7
8-5
12-1
Shaw then went
11-2
12-2
11-3
8-5
12-2
10-3
9-5
9-4
4-8
4-2
3-9
3-9
So…. Like I said.
quote:
David Shaw inherited a program Harbaugh built
And managed to run it into the grown
Posted on 7/14/23 at 5:50 pm to TheDeathValley
quote:
David Shaw inherited a program Harbaugh built
And managed to run it into the grown
Those first eight years are a pretty goddamn good eight year run for Stanford. He didn't adapt once his offensive line play fell off of a cliff, but he kept that run going for a lot longer than people probably expected him to.
That said, I wouldn't hire him as a coach now.
Posted on 7/14/23 at 8:49 pm to lsu777
quote:
He made Stanford relevant
Woke pussy's are gonna woke pussy. It doesn't matter who the HC is at NW. Surprised they haven't replaced football with quidditch.
Posted on 7/15/23 at 10:09 pm to TheDeathValley
quote:
Please enlighten me then on where I was “wrong”
You quote the word wrong, yet that was never even in my post. I mean, you are wrong, and your records you posted prove you wrong.
Harbaugh: 4 seasons, two winning ones. David Shae: 8 winning seasons.
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