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re: NIL restrictions
Posted on 1/3/24 at 11:01 am to BOSCEAUX
Posted on 1/3/24 at 11:01 am to BOSCEAUX
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This money is coming from boosters of the school and has nothing to do with NIL. Isn’t that supposed to be still against the rules?
There probably is a small requirement written into their agreements. Probably something like them showing up to a booster dinner with the folks in their collective or signing a few jerseys. We don't know the details of the agreements. I'm sure that plenty of attorneys have written and reviewed them in order to be within the framework of the NIL rules.
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Posted on 1/3/24 at 11:03 am to ApexTiger
You guys seem to be under the assumption that restrictions are even possible at this point.
Unless the schools begin to give contracts to these players, there probably is no way to restrict any of this.
The NCAA has lost pretty much every legal challenge, haven’t they?
Unless the schools begin to give contracts to these players, there probably is no way to restrict any of this.
The NCAA has lost pretty much every legal challenge, haven’t they?
Posted on 1/3/24 at 11:12 am to Scruffy
They’ve lost every legal challenge and they have lost them nonpartisanly so nobody can pull the liberal vs. conservative caca. What old-school fans demand on message boards is not going to be taken into consideration, period. People can start these threads in umpteen different ways and the reality that this genie is not going back into the bottle, period, and your options moving forward are to watch or not watch because the old days are gone forever.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 11:35 am to GusAU
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but do you really think college sports can survive under the current system we have today?
Yes.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 11:39 am to LaLadyinTx
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The idea that it's all about an education went out the window long ago when schools began receiving giant TV deals for football.
It went out the window before WW1
A lot of CFB fans just lied to themselves for a long time about a lot of things that are being exposed as lies, and instead of realizing they believed in fairy tales, they're doubling down like Slim Charles
A huge number of players never "played for the school" despite what these fans believed.
A huge number of players were always getting paid, despite what these fans believed.
A huge number of players only used this system as a means to get to the NFL, despise what these fans believed.
Yes, there is some short-term disruption that will work itself out over time, but they're mostly mad at their fantasy bubble being popped.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 12:03 pm to SlowFlowPro
NIL isn't as big of an issue as the portal.
Players have been getting paid for decades but this idea you can just haul arse whenever you want and do it multiple times and get a "waiver" is new.
Players have been getting paid for decades but this idea you can just haul arse whenever you want and do it multiple times and get a "waiver" is new.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 12:06 pm to ThePoo
Like it should be! That was the point. Players able to sell tshirts autographs and endorse products
Posted on 1/3/24 at 12:20 pm to GusAU
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Please answer this…what exactly was the point I wanted to make?
To me it seemed like you were trying to declare that the Supreme Court made an oversight with the NFL — my point was that’s not necessarily the case …it’s just that the NFL hasn’t been put on trial (yet).
Also, NIL & an actual wages are two different things — but I still think there’s an argument NFL is restricting trade if a particular owner wants to spend more money.
Personally I think it’s all completely out of control, but I’m just reading the rules as they are written.
This post was edited on 1/3/24 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 1/3/24 at 12:26 pm to Marciano1
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Players have been getting paid for decades but this idea you can just haul arse whenever you want and do it multiple times and get a "waiver" is new.
Yes, exactly.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 1:25 pm to jcole4lsu
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The NCAA has been spanked by a Federal Court every time they try and restrict NIL. Not sure what you really think they can do at this point
People on here don’t understand the situation. The ncaa isn’t being hands off because they want to be. The federal government is preventing them from doing anything.
Just about every restriction proposed on this board is a non starter that will never happen unless the ncaa launches a years long and incredibly costly legal battle AND wins.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 1:26 pm to BigPerm30
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No 17/18 year old kid should have access to millions.
We should cap ceo pay too while we are spouting commie bullshite
Posted on 1/3/24 at 1:41 pm to ApexTiger
Police the schools, not the players.
A player can transfer, but a school can be punished for playing them.
I would strengthen the academic progress metric and add a penalty for extra transfers.
There are ways around this. The court has never said the NCAA can’t have rules or academic standards
A player can transfer, but a school can be punished for playing them.
I would strengthen the academic progress metric and add a penalty for extra transfers.
There are ways around this. The court has never said the NCAA can’t have rules or academic standards
Posted on 1/3/24 at 1:43 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
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Police the schools, not the players
The schools aren't the ones using NIL. Third parties are.
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A player can transfer, but a school can be punished for playing them.
This is literally the same restraint on trade the NCAA lost at the Supreme Court 9-0.
Not 5-4, 6-3, 7-2, or an 8-1 lone holdout scenario. 9-0.
This post was edited on 1/3/24 at 1:44 pm
Posted on 1/3/24 at 1:50 pm to SlowFlowPro
How are they allowed Academic Progress Requirements?
Or even limits on eligibility? Why can’t the court say allowing only 4 years is a restraint on trade. Or only 85 scholarships? Or only 9 on field coaches?
The NCAA is obviously allowed to have rules. Work within what is allowed.
Or even limits on eligibility? Why can’t the court say allowing only 4 years is a restraint on trade. Or only 85 scholarships? Or only 9 on field coaches?
The NCAA is obviously allowed to have rules. Work within what is allowed.
Posted on 1/3/24 at 2:06 pm to Bjorn Cyborg
I don't think that would hold up in court. I think about the best the NCAA will ever get is that you can't transfer mid season and play for another team. I think we'll have 4-5x transfers for some kids.
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