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NFL says Broncos blocked PAT return was a legal play
Posted on 11/14/16 at 6:44 am
Posted on 11/14/16 at 6:44 am
quote:https://broncoswire.usatoday.com/2016/11/13/was-denver-broncos-new-orleans-saints-pat-block-legal-nfl-says-yes/
“He’s going to get his hands up on top of the snapper and push him toward the ground,” Blandino said of Broncos defensive end Jared Crick. “That’s legal. Open-hand push, legal. If there was a grab and a push, that would be defensive holding.
“This is a similar concept as an offensive lineman blocking a defensive lineman, if he can get up on top of that defensive player and push him toward the ground, [that’s] legal, versus grabbing and pulling him.”
As for if safety Will Parks stepped out of bounds on his return down the sideline, Blandino emphasized that an angle down the sideline would have made it easier to review the play. Since there was not conclusive evidence to overturn the ruling, the call on the field stood.
Consider the controversy settled.
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Posted on 11/14/16 at 6:46 am to TTsTowel
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Consider the controversy settled.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 6:48 am to TTsTowel
This will rustle some jimmies
Posted on 11/14/16 at 6:48 am to TTsTowel
For a while, I thought the constant on special teams with long snappers is you couldn't touch the snapper period. But it's ok to push them down?
Posted on 11/14/16 at 6:49 am to Roger Klarvin
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This will rustle some jimmies
Speaking of, how's the last month been?
Posted on 11/14/16 at 6:51 am to sicboy
You just can't touch them when you're jumping over.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 6:52 am to Rand AlThor
I've seen penalties called on any contact to the long snapper. Is this something that has changed?
Posted on 11/14/16 at 6:55 am to TTsTowel
Haha! Where's ole NawlinsTiger to say they are wrong?
Posted on 11/14/16 at 6:57 am to Cowboyfan89
NFL is always right
This post was edited on 11/14/16 at 6:59 am
Posted on 11/14/16 at 6:57 am to TigerBait1127
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This post was edited on 11/14/16 at 6:58 am
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:18 am to TTsTowel
if the NFL is saying that pushing the snapper down to jump over him is legal then the Saints better be doing it every field goal attempt against them the rest of the year. something tells me the flags will start to fly though
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:30 am to TTsTowel
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“He’s going to get his hands up on top of the snapper and push him toward the ground,” Blandino said of Broncos defensive end Jared Crick. “That’s legal. Open-hand push, legal. If there was a grab and a push, that would be defensive holding.
“This is a similar concept as an offensive lineman blocking a defensive lineman, if he can get up on top of that defensive player and push him toward the ground, [that’s] legal, versus grabbing and pulling him.”
Super weird explanation. How does this not open itself up for absurd extremes. I can just stand up straight right over the center who is crouched down and has his head between his legs. Then, the instant he snaps it I can just smash my hands down on him but "because I got on top of him" (which no shite because he's got his head between his legs and I'm standing up) it's legal?
If that is the true interpretation of the rule, then it's a terrible rule.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:36 am to FootballNostradamus
you cant line up directly over the center, so you cannot do that
when it comes down to it, the center needs to get his head up quicker.
when it comes down to it, the center needs to get his head up quicker.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:38 am to Lester Earl
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you cant line up directly over the center, so you cannot do that
Well the play wouldn't work if you lined up directly over too
They'll change this going forward, but i still think he grabbed jersey and illegally prevented the player from making his block.
Furthermore, what grinds my geers is the nfls inability to put 3 views together and make the correct call. Replay as a whole needs to be revamped.
The nfl being cheap and not having a constant sideline camera is bs too
This post was edited on 11/14/16 at 7:40 am
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:48 am to TigerBait1127
I knew it was legal, but it did look like he had one foot on the sideline while running the ball back
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:52 am to TTsTowel
Have a feeling this rule will be getting tweaked in the offseason.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 7:58 am to TigerBait1127
its hard to tell if he grabbed jersey or not, too many bodies.
but what i find funny is that isnt included under "leverage" violation.
So you cant use a teammate or opponent to launch your self, yet you can use your teammate to hold your opponent down so he can jump over him? I see the loophole, but it is kinda silly.
#93 committed leverage by the very definition
but what i find funny is that isnt included under "leverage" violation.
So you cant use a teammate or opponent to launch your self, yet you can use your teammate to hold your opponent down so he can jump over him? I see the loophole, but it is kinda silly.
#93 committed leverage by the very definition
Posted on 11/14/16 at 8:04 am to TTsTowel
Yea, who saw this coming.
By rule it could have been called illegal contact or defensive holding.
The guys holding down the long snapper never appear to make an advancement towards the ball. The four turnovers cost the saints the game though. If the game comes down to whether an official makes the call or not, then you didn't play well enough to win the game.
By rule it could have been called illegal contact or defensive holding.
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ARTICLE 6. DEFENSIVE HOLDING. It is a foul for defensive holding if: (a) a defensive player tackles or holds any opponent other than a runner, except as permitted in Article 5 (b) during a punt, field goal attempt, or Try-kick attempt, B1 grabs and pulls an offensive player out of the way, allowing B2 to shoot the gap (pull-and-shoot) in an attempt to block the kick, except if B1 is advancing toward the kicker Note: Any offensive player who pretends to possess the ball, and/or one to whom a teammate pretends to give the ball, may be tackled until he crosses the line of scrimmage between the tackles of a normal tight offensive line. Penalty: For defensive holding: Loss of five yards and an automatic first down.
ARTICLE 7. ILLEGAL USE OF HANDS BY DEFENSE. It is a foul if a defensive player thrusts his hands or arms forward above the frame of an opponent to contact him on the neck, face, or head. Note: Contact in close-line play that is not direct and forcible is not a foul.
The guys holding down the long snapper never appear to make an advancement towards the ball. The four turnovers cost the saints the game though. If the game comes down to whether an official makes the call or not, then you didn't play well enough to win the game.
Posted on 11/14/16 at 8:16 am to AwesomeSauce
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the game comes down to whether an official makes the call or not, then you didn't play well enough to win the game.
I agree that the saints should have blown them out
But couldn't you apply the same logic to the broncos
Posted on 11/14/16 at 8:22 am to TigerBait1127
You lost, quit moaning about it.
We have some real whiny asses around here.
We have some real whiny asses around here.
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