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NFL OT rule proposal that I never get a straight answer why not awesome
Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:41 pm
Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:41 pm
Pregame coin toss is the only coin toss there is. Team A wins the toss and chooses to kick, receive, defend a specific end zone, or defer, and then we play a 60-minute game as scheduled.
If the game is tied after 60 minutes, the two captains meet again, and now Team B gets to choose from the same options.
Sudden death.
So what's the problem with this? After all, we know from the start of the game who will get the ball in a hypothetical overtime, so now both teams can play the game with that in mind. Maybe you go for 2 instead of kick that PAT at the gun knowing that you're going to have to kick off to Brady in overtime.
If the game is tied after 60 minutes, the two captains meet again, and now Team B gets to choose from the same options.
Sudden death.
So what's the problem with this? After all, we know from the start of the game who will get the ball in a hypothetical overtime, so now both teams can play the game with that in mind. Maybe you go for 2 instead of kick that PAT at the gun knowing that you're going to have to kick off to Brady in overtime.
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Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:44 pm to ballscaster
Ok thought, but no.
Regular seaaon is ok now.
All they need to do in playoffs is make a rule both teams get the ball once (eliminate the TD ends it in postseason)
Regular seaaon is ok now.
All they need to do in playoffs is make a rule both teams get the ball once (eliminate the TD ends it in postseason)
Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:47 pm to lsusa
quote:Something tells me you haven't played that scenario out completely. There will always be something unfair about any scenario.
All they need to do in playoffs is make a rule both teams get the ball once (eliminate the TD ends it in postseason)
Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:51 pm to ballscaster
play an extra quarter.
if tied after a quarter you go to sudden death.
An extra period is literally what every other team sport does. Basketball and Hockey have timed periods, Baseball has an extra inning, soccer has a timed period that goes to "sudden death" (penalty kicks) if it remains tied. College football is basically a hybrid of baseball and the NFL. Winning a coin toss shouldn't provide such an advantage
if tied after a quarter you go to sudden death.
An extra period is literally what every other team sport does. Basketball and Hockey have timed periods, Baseball has an extra inning, soccer has a timed period that goes to "sudden death" (penalty kicks) if it remains tied. College football is basically a hybrid of baseball and the NFL. Winning a coin toss shouldn't provide such an advantage
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:58 pm to ballscaster
We should have an xfl style run off for the ball to start overtime.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:59 pm to lsusa
quote:I just find this idea to be very gay.
All they need to do in playoffs is make a rule both teams get the ball once (eliminate the TD ends it in postseason)
Posted on 2/7/17 at 5:59 pm to airfernando
quote:Can you tell me why? That's the exact topic of the thread.
Something tells me you haven't played that scenario out completely. There will always be something unfair about any scenario.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 6:00 pm to ballscaster
I don't think I understand what your proposal is
Posted on 2/7/17 at 6:00 pm to Riseupfromtherubble
quote:My idea solves this problem. Playing an extra quarter and then sudden death is no better than playing straight sudden death.
Winning a coin toss shouldn't provide such an advantage
Posted on 2/7/17 at 6:04 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
quote:The privileges you win by winning the pregame coin toss go to the opposing team at the beginning of the first overtime.
I don't think I understand what your proposal is
Team A wins the pregame coin toss. Captain A chooses on behalf of Team A whether to kick, receive, defer, or defend an end zone, and Captain B chooses from the remaining choices. For example, Captain A elects to kick. Then Captain B elects the end zone to defend. Play ball.
If the fourth quarter ends with the score tied, the captains meet again, and now Captain B makes the first choice since Captain A chose first 60 minutes ago. Captain B likely chooses to receive (unless New England is playing Denver and Bill picks the wind), and then Captain A chooses which end zone to defend. Play sudden death. No coin involved after the beginning of the game.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 6:06 pm to ballscaster
So if you lose the original coin toss, you always get the ball 2 out of 3 times? Why?
Posted on 2/7/17 at 6:12 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
quote:Because the game went into overtime and there's only one ball. Is it not better for the integrity of the game to know ahead of time who gets the ball in the "third" half? The antagonist of this story, currently, is the coin. This plan kills off the coin in the prologue.
So if you lose the original coin toss, you always get the ball 2 out of 3 times? Why?
Posted on 2/7/17 at 7:33 pm to ballscaster
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Is it not better for the integrity of the game to know ahead of time who gets the ball in the "third" half?
I don't see where it matters, honestly. As it is teams have to chose to play for the win or tie late in a game. Sure the knowledge that the other team will get the ball first in OT may influence a decision, but I bet teams will play for the tie more often than not. Most coaches probably would feel that it's better to lose in OT than regulation.
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Because the game went into overtime and there's only one ball.
But given this, doesn't it make as much sense for possession to be determined randomly both times? It essentially puts teams on equal footing in OT. One change I could consider would be giving the home team the opportunity to call the toss in OT.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:05 pm to Wayne Campbell
Before the rule change only 30 something % of teams won the game on the first drive. How can you get anymore fair than that? That obviously proves teams werent winning games because of the coin toss.
Doing anything other than going back to true sudden death would be stupid.
The point of sudden death is to end the game quickly and also make it exciting.
Doing anything other than going back to true sudden death would be stupid.
The point of sudden death is to end the game quickly and also make it exciting.
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 8:06 pm
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:07 pm to Wayne Campbell
quote:Don't get me wrong. I know full well that there was never a problem with the old NFL sudden death OT rule, and I know this because I'm a man, and anyone who disagrees isn't a man. I fully believe that.
But given this, doesn't it make as much sense for possession to be determined randomly both times?
But, since the bitching is always directed at the coin, that's why I took the coin out of the game and kept it before the game.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:12 pm to diat150
quote:Not exactly the smartest question I've ever heard, but....
Before the rule change only 30 something % of teams won the game on the first drive. How can you get anymore fair than that?
quote:...otherwise, you're reading my mind. Sudden death is the shite--always was, always will be. The anti-sudden-death rhetoric is mostly "A coin toss shouldn't decide the game," so I took the coin toss out of overtime.
That obviously proves teams werent winning games because of the coin toss.
Doing anything other than going back to true sudden death would be stupid.
The point of sudden death is to end the game quickly and also make it exciting.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:15 pm to ballscaster
The point should be frick off if you dont like sudden death, thats the way its done in the nfl. The stats do not correlate to the coin toss being an advantage.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:22 pm to diat150
quote:Well that's mathematically false, but I love where your heart is at.
The stats do not correlate to the coin toss being an advantage.
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:23 pm to ballscaster
I think they should just play another 10, 12, or 15-minute period. Just play football some more.
This post was edited on 2/7/17 at 8:24 pm
Posted on 2/7/17 at 8:29 pm to ballscaster
I like soccer rules. In the playoffs, they should add 15 minutes. If still a tie the sudden death.
Not being salty. Falcons would have loss in overtime that way too. That defense was gassed.
Not being salty. Falcons would have loss in overtime that way too. That defense was gassed.
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