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re: NFL needs to get rid of kickers not change the PAT or goalposts
Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:51 pm to TigerBait1127
Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:51 pm to TigerBait1127
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A good offensive team would go for it every time instead of deciding between 3 possible options.
Defensive teams would get hurt by this a lot more than offensive teams.
Good defensive teams will be able to stop the fourth down and people want to see offensive plays and going for it. It will add excitement to the game.
I still say it changes strategy not eliminates it.
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Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:53 pm to TigerBait1127
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So basically just encourage an onside kick every single time?
I really think you are underestimating the ability of a football player to kick the ball. There a lot of guys who can kick and punt. I mean it's on a tee and punting the ball on average of 40 yards is not hard for an adult male with coaching.
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 9:54 pm
Posted on 3/31/14 at 9:55 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
That's how rugby does it.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:00 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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The only time the rule will not apply is for the kickoff that starts the first half and second half.
This wouldnt help save a roster spot. You would still have to use a roster spot for a guy that kicks off at the beginning of the game and halftime, which makes it even more of a waste.
And im
at the fact that you think anyone with coaching can go out there and average 40yards per punt in an NFL game. This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 10:04 pm
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:01 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
Punters are people too
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:02 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
Other players can be substituted at any time on offense. No reason why a player can't be substituted to kick.
There is no guarantee that he has to kick. He could fake it and run because he's a football player.
There is no guarantee that he has to kick. He could fake it and run because he's a football player.
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:06 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
If this is true
then this isn't true
Also
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games decided often by guys who only kicks the ball
then this isn't true
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It's a waste of a roster spot.
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I would also widen the goal posts
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NFL needs to get rid of kickers not change the PAT or goalposts
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This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 10:08 pm
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:15 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
Should just title the thread "What way can you come up with to frick up the NFL worse than the scenario I have just proposed?"
This post was edited on 3/31/14 at 10:16 pm
Posted on 3/31/14 at 10:20 pm to Ralph_Wiggum
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So basically just encourage an onside kick every single time?
I really think you are underestimating the ability of a football player to kick the ball. There a lot of guys who can kick and punt. I mean it's on a tee and punting the ball on average of 40 yards is not hard for an adult male with coaching.
I'm not at all. I don't think you understand what happens by moving the ball closer to the 50 while hurting hangtime and distance on kicks by a significant amount.
It would be statistically stupid not to onside kick the majority of the time
Posted on 4/1/14 at 5:49 am to Ralph_Wiggum
While you're at it, make them kick PATs directly in line from where they scored it. And about that, make them touch the ball down when they score. Also, move the kickoff to the fifty and make it a drop kick. Oh, and get rid of the pads. And make the field bigger. And add four more guys on each side. And eliminate open substitutions.
Basically just play rugby.
Basically just play rugby.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 6:26 am to RLDSC FAN
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call me crazy, but I kind of like your idea
It has been posted on this several times by different posters
Not a very original idea
Posted on 4/1/14 at 6:43 am to KBeezy
This doesn't necessarily sound like a bad idea to me, I'm just failing to understand what problem this solves.
Special teams in football works fine IMO. Kicking/punting is strategically important...why would we prevent teams from having guys who specialize in it?
Special teams in football works fine IMO. Kicking/punting is strategically important...why would we prevent teams from having guys who specialize in it?
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:05 am to ZereauxSum
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Special teams in football works fine IMO. Kicking/punting is strategically important...why would we prevent teams from having guys who specialize in it?
It's become too specialized. And kickers are getting too good and PAT are becoming boring. You would still have kicks but they would not be as good at first. You guys are seriously underestimating the ability of athletes to kick or punt the ball.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:14 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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It's become too specialized. And kickers are getting too good and PAT are becoming boring. You would still have kicks but they would not be as good at first. You guys are seriously underestimating the ability of athletes to kick or punt the ball.
So what happens when the designated kickers become too good and extra points become automatic again? What's the threshold where PATs are converted at such a rate that it's not interesting?
How would teams going for it on 4th and 15 from the 30 because their special kicking WR wasn't on the field the play before make the game better?
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:19 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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The player who attempts a PAT or field goal or who punts must be a player who was on the field for the kicking team on the previous play.
horrible... what if someone gets hurt and has to sit out a play?
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:32 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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You like seeing games decided often by guys who only kicks the ball?
Id rather that then have it decided on a MLB thats never kicked in his life shanking a ball two yards down field
And until kickers can regularly nail 97 yard field goals, they dont "decide" a game
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:35 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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It's become too specialized. And kickers are getting too good and PAT are becoming boring. You would still have kicks but they would not be as good at first. You guys are seriously underestimating the ability of athletes to kick or punt the ball.
Quarterbacks are too good these days, way too specialized. All the records are being broken, we need to place a rule that says a quarterback must also have played the last defensive snap of the game
You guys really want those green jersey ninnies deciding a game?
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:36 am to Ralph_Wiggum
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It's become too specialized. And kickers are getting too good and PAT are becoming boring.
Yeah I guess this is true. I don't have a problem with it, but why not spot the ball back 10-15 yards to make it less automatic?
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You guys are seriously underestimating the ability of athletes to kick or punt the ball.
I remember a few years ago, Ochocinco kicked in a preseason game. It didn't look terrible but I don't remember him looking great either. Made me think "decent HS kicker"
I could be wrong but he was probably one of the better kickers out of all of the offensive skill guys in the league. It's not just about kicking it far (and even here, I don't think you realize how hard it is to get it over the uprights from 40 yds) but you have to be consistent and accurate. You need proper form so you're not shanking it all over the place and that takes practice, so one of your skill guys would be getting fewer reps doing what he is best at.
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:38 am to Ralph_Wiggum
How many times a day do you smash your head up against a brick wall ?
Posted on 4/1/14 at 7:39 am to Displaced
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what if someone gets hurt and has to sit out a play?
Good point.
I can definitely see a lot of "injuries" on scoring plays allowing the scoring team to sub in the #6 WR who has never caught a pass in his life but just happens to be an ex-soccer player
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