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NFL Combine "freaks" who were busts in the league
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:40 am
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:40 am
I personally think that the physical portion of the combine as to predicting the success of a player is way overrated. I know that different teams probably use the information that they gather at the combine differently, but the media has really hyped this event recently. So, who are some who fit the thread title?
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 9:41 am
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Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:40 am to High C
Vernon Gholston
LINK
That link doesn't only have busts but also great players
quote:
One of the main reasons teams remain skeptical of off-the-charts Combine stats, Gholston was the classic “look like Tarzan, play like Jane.” In shorts and a muscle shirt, Gholston ran a 4.67 in the 40, had 37 reps on the bench and lifted off for a 35.5” vertical and 10’5” broad jump.
LINK
That link doesn't only have busts but also great players
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 9:42 am
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:41 am to High C
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:41 am to Buckeye06
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Vernon Gholston
Should be a body-builder
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:47 am to High C
Mike Mamula is the reason the term "workout warrior" entered the lexicon so he belongs in the thread.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:55 am to SG_Geaux
Great link. I had forgotten about Mandarich.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 9:59 am to High C
quote:
I personally think that the physical portion of the combine as to predicting the success of a player is way overrated.
I don't think that's how NFL teams see it. Success in the NFL is largely governed by what's between the player's ears. And that's a hard thing to forecast. So teams take a statistical shotgun approach. They know some players are going to translate to the NFL and some aren't, so of the ones that do, they'd rather have a guy that runs a 4.4.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:07 am to Walking the Earth
Mamula was not a bust though, he played for 6 or 7 years? Mamula also had decent Sr year and would have been a low first high 2nd round pick most likely.
Akili Smith is a bust.
Akili Smith is a bust.
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 10:10 am
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:08 am to High C
Dion Jordan is the poster child for this, IMO
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:08 am to High C
Trent Richardson is one of the overall strongest people to ever play in the NFL
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:15 am to High C
I don't know how he did in the Combine but physically speaking, Taylor Mays was a freak.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:20 am to MountainTiger
quote:
I don't think that's how NFL teams see it. Success in the NFL is largely governed by what's between the player's ears. And that's a hard thing to forecast. So teams take a statistical shotgun approach. They know some players are going to translate to the NFL and some aren't, so of the ones that do, they'd rather have a guy that runs a 4.4.
I think that's true for SOME, as I mentioned in the OP. However, I don't believe you would say that an organization like NE uses this approach.
This post was edited on 1/13/17 at 11:17 am
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:23 am to High C
quote:The combine only gauges an individuals athletic ability, NOT their FOOTBALL ability.
I personally think that the physical portion of the combine as to predicting the success of a player is way overrated.
The first thing any coach, scout or draft analyst looks at is size and speed. Those are 2 things that cannot be coached up. What they cannot measure is heart, desire or instinct.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:26 am to High C
Bruce Campbell
6'6" 314 lb OT from Maryland
Ran a 4.85 and did 34 bench reps. Raiders drafted him in the top 10 and he plays for the Saskatchewan Rough Riders now.
Derrius Heyward-Bey probably falls into this category but at least he's still in the league, same with Barkevious Mingo
6'6" 314 lb OT from Maryland
Ran a 4.85 and did 34 bench reps. Raiders drafted him in the top 10 and he plays for the Saskatchewan Rough Riders now.
Derrius Heyward-Bey probably falls into this category but at least he's still in the league, same with Barkevious Mingo
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:28 am to Riseupfromtherubble
Speaking of combine freaks...I didn't realize Thomas Howard died.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:30 am to High C
My boy Broderick Bunkely was a huge bust. Aaron Curry. Who else?....Tim Tebow. 
I can't think of anymore off the top of my head.
I can't think of anymore off the top of my head. 
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:32 am to High C
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Mamula was not a bust though, he played for 6 or 7 years?
Mandarich also. He ended up as an OL and had a successful career.
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:34 am to High C
Dee Milliner
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:36 am to tigerfootball10
Mario Fannin ran a 4.38 at 231 pounds and had a 37.5" vertical and still went undrafted. Combine freak nonetheless
Posted on 1/13/17 at 10:37 am to SlowEasyConfident
Milliner is a good one. Dude is made of glass
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