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re: Nets-Celtics working on huge trade
Posted on 6/27/13 at 12:52 pm to eyeran
Posted on 6/27/13 at 12:52 pm to eyeran
Other than money which the Russian isn't worried about, I don't see how this is a bad trade for the Nets. Pierce is a hugh upgrade over Wallce scoring wise a when JJ disappears, and Garnett will be able to cover up some of Lopez's deficiencies on defense.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 12:53 pm to dj30
quote:
I honestly think they might be really good. The problem with Boston I believe was them having KG play center. With the Nets he can move back to power forward. With him not having to bang around as much, we might see a resurgence in his offensive numbers.
KG is obviously better than Hump at the 4, so that goes without saying. Evans is still there to play against the second unit as needed.
I'm wondering whether Crash's problems will persist in Boston or if Pierce's age catches up to him in Brooklyn.
I'm also wondering if the loss of Brooks as a likely side-deal to this hurts as well, even if they're picking up a veteran point to backstop Deron.
I'm also wondering how badly losing a bunch of picks will hamstring Brooklyn since Pierce and Garnett are a two-season fix at best. Within two seasons, both probably retire and the Nets are left trying to fill major minutes with a payroll that is already north of $67m guaranteed for just Lopez, Deron, Johnson, Teletovic, and Evans.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 1:50 pm to boXerrumble
if im boston, i'ld want
brooks
teletovic
drafted player tonight
2014 1st pick unprotected
sign bynum.....go to east finals!!
rondo
brooks
green
sullinger
bynum
brooks
teletovic
drafted player tonight
2014 1st pick unprotected
sign bynum.....go to east finals!!
rondo
brooks
green
sullinger
bynum
Posted on 6/27/13 at 1:55 pm to BayouFann
quote:O/U 90 Games Played by them Combined next season (including playoffs).
sign bynum.....go to east finals!!
rondo
brooks
green
sullinger
bynum
Posted on 6/27/13 at 1:57 pm to BayouFann
This will be PP's reaction if traded:
Posted on 6/27/13 at 2:02 pm to BayouFann
quote:
2014 1st pick unprotected
Won't help that much... Brooklyn traded Atlanta the rights to switch 1sts with them.
That means the value of the pick is not wonderful because, even if the Nets suck, the Hawks also have to suck to really cash in on it.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 4:14 pm to teke184
nets are more dumb than the bobcats.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 4:16 pm to Chad504boy
quote:
Adrian WojnarowskiVerified account
?@WojYahooNBA
Celtics, Nets deal has reached ownership level, league source tells Y! Jason Terry joins Pierce and Garnett in package, source says.
Wow. They literally are gonna swap rosters.
This is what the Clippers-Celtics would've done had Stern not spoke out against players and coaches being swapped.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 4:25 pm to boXerrumble
quote:
boXerrumble
DA is simply acquiring picks and assets that he can flip later. He has done this before when he got Allen and KG.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 4:30 pm to Fat Bastard
Also from the rumor mill, that if BOS-BKN trade does through, then they will try excute a sign-and-trade with Atlanta for Josh Smith if Danny Ferry approves it (if Houston get D12, they might be also want a SNT for Smith).
This post was edited on 6/27/13 at 4:33 pm
Posted on 6/27/13 at 4:30 pm to boXerrumble
Movable pieces from each side-
Brooklyn-
Humphries ($12m)
Wallace ($10m, 3 years)
Teletovic ($3m, 2 years)
Reggie Evans ($1.7m, 2 years)
Marshon Brooks ($1.2m, team option and QO remaining)
Tornike Shengelia ($800K)
Tyshawn Taylor ($800k)
2013 1st round pick, late 20s
Boston-
Garnett ($11.5m, 2 seasons)
Pierce ($15m)
Jason Terry ($5m, 2 seasons)
Terry, Garnett, and Pierce is $31.5m in salaries, give or take.
Brooklyn will have to send back Hump ($12m), Wallace ($10m), and at least an additional $6m if the trade rules regarding 90% to 110% of salaries is in effect.
Brooklyn-
Humphries ($12m)
Wallace ($10m, 3 years)
Teletovic ($3m, 2 years)
Reggie Evans ($1.7m, 2 years)
Marshon Brooks ($1.2m, team option and QO remaining)
Tornike Shengelia ($800K)
Tyshawn Taylor ($800k)
2013 1st round pick, late 20s
Boston-
Garnett ($11.5m, 2 seasons)
Pierce ($15m)
Jason Terry ($5m, 2 seasons)
Terry, Garnett, and Pierce is $31.5m in salaries, give or take.
Brooklyn will have to send back Hump ($12m), Wallace ($10m), and at least an additional $6m if the trade rules regarding 90% to 110% of salaries is in effect.
This post was edited on 6/27/13 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 6/27/13 at 4:33 pm to teke184
Marshon is going to Wolves tonight for the 23rd pick.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 4:34 pm to NekiEcko
quote:
Marshon is going to Wolves tonight for the 23rd pick.
Not confirmed yet but likely.
That trade also likely brings in a backup point such as Luke Ridenour.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 4:50 pm to teke184
quote:
Won't help that much... Brooklyn traded Atlanta the rights to switch 1sts with them.
That means the value of the pick is not wonderful because, even if the Nets suck, the Hawks also have to suck to really cash in on it.
this refers to #18 right. i think 18 & 19 were just picks brooklyn acquired in some previous deals.
brooklyn owns its slotted pick due to playoff finish. #22
amiright?!?
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:14 pm to boXerrumble
Man, Brooklyn is really trying to win the NBA Championship in 2008!
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:16 pm to BayouFann
quote:
this refers to #18 right. i think 18 & 19 were just picks brooklyn acquired in some previous deals.
brooklyn owns its slotted pick due to playoff finish. #22
amiright?!?
I'm talking about future drafts, specifically 2014 and 2015.
Per RealGM's future draft info page-
quote:
2014 first round draft pick to Atlanta
Atlanta has the right to swap its 2014 1st round pick for Brooklyn's 2014 1st round pick [Atlanta-Brooklyn, 7/11/2012]
2015 first round draft pick to Atlanta
Atlanta has the right to swap its 2015 1st round pick for Brooklyn's 2015 1st round pick [Atlanta-Brooklyn, 7/11/2012]
This post was edited on 6/27/13 at 5:17 pm
Posted on 6/27/13 at 5:31 pm to teke184
quote:
gary washburn ?@GwashNBAGlobe 18m
NBA source said the deal is close, coming down to the decision of Kevin Garnett #celtics #nets
Holy shite.
Posted on 6/27/13 at 6:24 pm to boXerrumble
Nets are about to get railroaded if so..
Posted on 6/27/13 at 6:28 pm to boXerrumble
I am shocked they have space with all of those contracts (Lopez, Williams, JJ's anchor or a contract).
Posted on 6/27/13 at 6:31 pm to boXerrumble
quote:
Adrian Wojnarowski ?@WojYahooNBA 1m If Nets complete deal for Kevin Garnett and Paul Pierce, franchise's payroll will be $100 million, with a luxury tax bill of nearly $80M.
to that Ruskie owner.
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