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NBA voting on draft lottery reform
Posted on 9/15/17 at 11:20 am
Posted on 9/15/17 at 11:20 am
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But if Silver’s reform is passed, the three worst teams will split 14 percent odds at the top draft pick in 2019 with the following teams dropping “incrementally by a percentage point or two,” according to Wojnarowski.
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Posted on 9/15/17 at 11:28 am to WestCoastAg
Don't see what this does to fix "the problem". The teams with no shot will be in a race to the bottom 3.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 11:29 am to floridatigah
There really is no way to fix this problem unless you give everyone the same chance. But then you have things like the 14th place team winning the lottery
Posted on 9/15/17 at 11:31 am to WestCoastAg
The fix to the problem is to give the top odds to like the 5th worst team. And then 4th, 3rd, 2nd, 1st, and then the rest unchanged. that would mean that the 5 worst teams have to compete to be better than each other.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 11:33 am to Hester Carries
That isn't a bad idea.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 11:34 am to Hester Carries
And then the 6th, 7th, 8th, and 9th place teams would start tanking
Posted on 9/15/17 at 11:53 am to WestCoastAg
should be a 5 man committie that determines the draft order from 1 to 30. there should be no automated system.
committe shoudl take into account
- teams that tank
- teams with signifiant injuries that hampered their star player for one random year
- teams that are trying to manupliate the system
- teams that truly suck and are trying to win should be rewarded
- a traded draft pick the draft pick is still based on the orignal teams draft status
last year would have been
- 1. New Jersey (Boston)
- 2 Los Angeles
- 3. Orlando
- 4. Scaramento
- 5. New York
- 6. Philidelphia
committe shoudl take into account
- teams that tank
- teams with signifiant injuries that hampered their star player for one random year
- teams that are trying to manupliate the system
- teams that truly suck and are trying to win should be rewarded
- a traded draft pick the draft pick is still based on the orignal teams draft status
last year would have been
- 1. New Jersey (Boston)
- 2 Los Angeles
- 3. Orlando
- 4. Scaramento
- 5. New York
- 6. Philidelphia
Posted on 9/15/17 at 11:55 am to WestCoastAg
Teams that rest players should be docked a percentage point. 
Posted on 9/15/17 at 11:57 am to WestCoastAg
I don't get it... why does anybody care if crappy teams are crappy? There will always be crappy teams regardless.
I think tanking would only be a problem if a team that clearly wasn't that bad (like a 9th seed caliber team) was purposely losing games to get a high draft pick.
But that isn't the case. It's the absolute worst teams in the league who are trying to out-crap each other. They would suck regardless, so who cares.
I think tanking would only be a problem if a team that clearly wasn't that bad (like a 9th seed caliber team) was purposely losing games to get a high draft pick.
But that isn't the case. It's the absolute worst teams in the league who are trying to out-crap each other. They would suck regardless, so who cares.
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 11:59 am
Posted on 9/15/17 at 11:58 am to WestCoastAg
These proposed changes are incredibly stupid. You can go 0-82 and pick 4th. It's already a fair system and sort of a crapshoot. Basically any smaller market team that is bad and trying to build through the draft gets punished.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 11:58 am to PrimeTime Money
No idea
Posted on 9/15/17 at 12:01 pm to PrimeTime Money
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I don't get it... why does anybody care if crappy teams are crappy? There will always be crappy teams regardless.
Yeah. PHX, Sacramento, Chicago, Atlanta, Brooklyn, Orlando, etc are going to be really bad basketball teams this season. They're not going to have to try to lose a lot of games. Like you can't possibly expect PHX to be bad and say "Man, let's make sure Tyson Chandler and Jared Dudley play a lot so we can win some meaningless games."
Posted on 9/15/17 at 12:03 pm to jackwoods4
At least in the NFL tanking gets you a guaranteed result. The worst team will pick first in the draft. If you finish with the worst record in the NBA, there's a > 50% you pick either 3rd or 4th.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 12:36 pm to WestCoastAg
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But then you have things like the 14th place team winning the lottery
Well that might fix the middle class problem. Part of reason the talent is so top end is because the middle class teams sell out their best players to the top end teams in order to place themselves to the bottom of the league in order to get that organization changing player
I'm sure this will create another issue tho which is why it's pretty much impossible to solve this issue without sacrificing something
Posted on 9/15/17 at 12:39 pm to jackwoods4
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At least in the NFL tanking gets you a guaranteed result. The worst team will pick first in the draft. If you finish with the worst record in the NBA, there's a > 50% you pick either 3rd or 4th.
Tanking in the NFL also doesn't have near the impact as it does in the NBA. Outside of a Peyton Manning type 1st overall pick, which is extremely rare, you're not likely to change your franchise off of one pick.
If you did this in the NBA you'd have 5-10 teams at the end of the season playing their d-league team in order to get a higher pick, which already happens to some extent but it would only get worse
Posted on 9/15/17 at 12:41 pm to PrimeTime Money
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I don't get it... why does anybody care if crappy teams are crappy? There will always be crappy teams regardless.
The issue is that if over half the league isn't trying to be competitive, that pushes the majority of the talent to the other small portion of the league, which diminishes the league product overall. And given the talent in the NBA is probably the deepest it's ever been, they would rather have more parity that the same playoff teams every season.
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 12:41 pm
Posted on 9/15/17 at 12:42 pm to Hester Carries
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The fix to the problem is to give the top odds to like the 5th worst team. And then 4th, 3rd, 2nd, 1st, and then the rest unchanged. that would mean that the 5 worst teams have to compete to be better than each other.
Another potential fix is to set the worst however many (3-7) at the all star break and give the best odds to the team with the best record after that date. The goal needs to be incentivizing winning and punishing losing while still within the framework of giving bad teams a chance to improve through the draft. A solution that just slightly changes the calculus won't have the desired effect.
I like this type of solution because many teams won't know what direction to go (tank or not) before the all start break, so teams will be trying to win until then and will be incentivized to do so thereafter.
This post was edited on 9/18/17 at 9:49 am
Posted on 9/15/17 at 12:46 pm to therick711
where in the sports handbook does it say that a draft has to be based on gthe last year's results anyway?
what if what you did this year, determines what pick you get 2 years from now? i would think teams would be more likely to not tank if they wouldn't see the reslut for 3 years and wouldn't cash in on it for 5 years at least
make it to where tanking would be futitle because by the time you got the pick you aren't the GM anymore
what if what you did this year, determines what pick you get 2 years from now? i would think teams would be more likely to not tank if they wouldn't see the reslut for 3 years and wouldn't cash in on it for 5 years at least
make it to where tanking would be futitle because by the time you got the pick you aren't the GM anymore
Posted on 9/15/17 at 12:51 pm to WestCoastAg
I don't have a problem with tanking. I actually like that in the NBA every team seems to aim for a title regardless of how long the plan is. So many NFL teams just stay in mediocrity.
The NBA's current focus should be making the top of the league more competitive. Forget the bottom.
The NBA's current focus should be making the top of the league more competitive. Forget the bottom.
Posted on 9/15/17 at 1:04 pm to WestCoastAg
NBA continues to be a clown show. The other two big leagues do the draft by simply giving the worst team the top pick and so on which works perfectly. The lottery system is just another example of a corrupt joke of a league that more resembles pro wrestling than it does sport.
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 1:05 pm
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