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re: NBA has voted "NO" to Relocation of Sacramento Kings

Posted on 4/29/13 at 4:23 pm to
Posted by TDawg1313
WA
Member since Jul 2009
12310 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 4:23 pm to
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The relocation and finance committee is 12 people

The most hated man in Seattle sports is the head of the committee...
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I don't understand why they would vote no on this

If the NBA doesn't guarantee an expansion team, it would not surprise me to see the Seattle group sue the NBA.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95749 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 4:23 pm to
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Clay Bennett - Oklahoma City Thunder


Bennett was likely arguing hard against a return to Seattle considering all the actions taken by the city in the wake of the decision to move to OKC.
Posted by BenDover
Member since Jul 2010
5424 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 4:27 pm to
i wish the bucks would move to seattle
Posted by TDawg1313
WA
Member since Jul 2009
12310 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 4:28 pm to
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Bennett was likely arguing hard against a return to Seattle considering all the actions taken by the city in the wake of the decision to move to OKC.

The funny thing is that if Hansen and Ballmer pulled a Bennett and lied saying that they would keep the team in Sacramento, then Seattle would have a basketball team again soon.
Posted by floridatigah
FL
Member since Oct 2004
10395 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 4:32 pm to
Sacramento found a group that could pay $550 million to keep their team from going to Seattle. Seattle isn't going to give up, I think the Bucks and Wolves are on notice now.
Posted by LSUJuicer
Member since Jan 2013
3356 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 4:32 pm to
The owner of the thunder who pushed to move the sonics is part of the committee. That should not have happened.
Posted by TDawg1313
WA
Member since Jul 2009
12310 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 4:33 pm to
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Sacramento found a group that could pay $550 million to keep their team from going to Seattle. Seattle isn't going to give up, I think the Bucks and Wolves are on notice now.

Do you really think that Seattle wants to go through all of this again only two get screwed over for a 3rd time? I'm thinking this might be the end, although with all of the land owned and everything, they are pretty far into this.
Posted by BenDover
Member since Jul 2010
5424 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 4:37 pm to
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although with all of the land owned and everything, they are pretty far into this.

this is the key. i don't think they're going to give up just yet, they're going to push for a team one more time IMO.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
19309 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 4:38 pm to
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That means Phoenix Coyotes won't either


Or the Dallas Stars.

Gagliardi has to be sick to his stomach right about now.
Posted by floridatigah
FL
Member since Oct 2004
10395 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 4:41 pm to
I don't think they got screwed today. It was going to be difficult to get the Kings to Seattle if there were buyers willing to keep them in Sac. I'm sure it feels like getting screwed though because the process is different from when the Sonics were stolen.

And yes I think they continue to go for a team. Hansen group is legit and I'm sure they realized this was always a possibility.
Posted by NorthshoreTiger76
Pelicans, Saints, & LSU Fan
Member since May 2009
80181 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 4:44 pm to
wow didn't see this coming but it was the right thing to do a local ownership wanted to keep the team in sacramento and had the finances to do it
Posted by TDawg1313
WA
Member since Jul 2009
12310 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 4:44 pm to
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I don't think they got screwed today. It was going to be difficult to get the Kings to Seattle if there were buyers willing to keep them in Sac. I'm sure it feels like getting screwed though because the process is different from when the Sonics were stolen.


Yeah, but Ballmer was willing to buy the team to keep them in Seattle when they were threatening to move them to OKC and got denied. It just reeks of Stern.
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And yes I think they continue to go for a team. Hansen group is legit and I'm sure they realized this was always a possibility.


Good point. Hansen and Ballmer are too smart to put all of their eggs in one basket. They're about $100 million into this already.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95749 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 4:47 pm to
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Yeah, but Ballmer was willing to buy the team to keep them in Seattle when they were threatening to move them to OKC and got denied. It just reeks of Stern.


IIRC, Ballmer didn't step up to the plate until about 2-3 years after Bennett had bought the team from Starbucks magnate Howard Schultz and Schultz had been trying to sell to an owner in Seattle for some time before that as well as failing to get public support for a new arena.

If Ballmer wanted to keep the Sonics in Seattle, he should have bought them before Bennett did.
Posted by GeauxColonels
Tottenham Fan | LSU Fan
Member since Oct 2009
25604 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 4:50 pm to
NBA hates Seattle.
Posted by mattz1122
Member since Oct 2007
52810 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 4:51 pm to
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If Ballmer wanted to keep the Sonics in Seattle, he should have bought them before Bennett did.



Do you think it might be less expensive for him to build a time machine and do that?
Posted by TDawg1313
WA
Member since Jul 2009
12310 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 4:52 pm to
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IIRC, Ballmer didn't step up to the plate until about 2-3 years after Bennett had bought the team from Starbucks magnate Howard Schultz and Schultz had been trying to sell to an owner in Seattle for some time before that as well as failing to get public support for a new arena.

If Ballmer wanted to keep the Sonics in Seattle, he should have bought them before Bennett did.

Yes, that's true. Although if Bennett took the approach that Hansen/Ballmer did and was honest about his intentions to move, I have no doubts someone would have stepped up. When he promised to keep the team here, there wasn't the same local uproar as there was in Sacramento.

There's twitter rumors (who knows how reliable) that the NBA is going to discuss over the next couple of weeks how to satisfy the Seattle ownership group and expansion is getting thrown around. We'll see....
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70381 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 4:52 pm to
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If the NBA doesn't guarantee an expansion team, it would not surprise me to see the Seattle group sue the NBA.


Is now the time for expansion?

What is a reasonable number of teams to have before quality of play falls off dramatically?
Posted by floridatigah
FL
Member since Oct 2004
10395 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 4:55 pm to
Also need to think about what this does for franchise values around the league. The Sixers went for 280 just two years ago, the Hornets 340 last year. Seattle sets their sights on the Kings and all of a sudden they are worth 550? That's great for the rest of the owners, it will be even better when they go down the line and do the same to Milwaukee, Minnesota, and Charlotte.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
95749 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 4:56 pm to
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Do you think it might be less expensive for him to build a time machine and do that?


My point was that, by that time, Bennett et all had put a lot into the team, gotten Durant, and were poised for success.


The NBA forcing a sale to a new buyer who didn't bother expressing interest in the team 2-3 years prior was not going to happen.
Posted by Dr RC
The Money Pit
Member since Aug 2011
58082 posts
Posted on 4/29/13 at 5:00 pm to
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What is a reasonable number of teams to have before quality of play falls off dramatically?


the amount of people playing basketball has increased exponentially since the 70s and 80s.

The talent drain isn't b/c there are too many NBA teams, its b/c there are now legitimate options overseas that can pay more for guys who would be strong bench players here.

Dump the cap and institute full revenue sharing across the board and that can be mitigated.
This post was edited on 4/29/13 at 5:01 pm
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