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re: NBA Draft Lottery Reform Voted Down
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:18 am to quail man
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:18 am to quail man
We intentionally tanked 1 or 2 games towards the very end of that season. We got LUCKY by losing a coin flip and winning that lottery much like the Cavs somehow manage to keep doing.
It was FRUSTRATING wanting them to tank and watching them win stupid games they had no business winning with Davis as the prize. In fact, if I were to believe in karma, I'd believe the Pels ended up with Davis cause they were the crappy team that tried.
It was FRUSTRATING wanting them to tank and watching them win stupid games they had no business winning with Davis as the prize. In fact, if I were to believe in karma, I'd believe the Pels ended up with Davis cause they were the crappy team that tried.
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Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:19 am to VermilionTiger
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VermilionTiger
Breathe into a paper bag.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:29 am to ShamelessPel
Some stupid shite in this thread. 
The Hornets had to trade CP3 before the season. The best player from that trade was Eric Gordon, who only played 9 friggin' games due to injury. He has been "tanking" New Orleans for three years now. Several other guys from a mediocre starting lineup missed games due to legitimate injuries (Jack, Ariza, Okafor).
That team wasn't set up to tank. It was thin to begin with (which is a big reason why Paul wanted out) and then lost its best players/starting backcourt to injuries.
The Hornets had to trade CP3 before the season. The best player from that trade was Eric Gordon, who only played 9 friggin' games due to injury. He has been "tanking" New Orleans for three years now. Several other guys from a mediocre starting lineup missed games due to legitimate injuries (Jack, Ariza, Okafor).
That team wasn't set up to tank. It was thin to begin with (which is a big reason why Paul wanted out) and then lost its best players/starting backcourt to injuries.
Posted on 10/22/14 at 11:38 am to Jwho77
The main difference between that Hornets team and the clearly tanking teams is they didn't purge their roster of the Jack, Landry, and Bellinelli types. Guys that were gone in a year or so and have no impact on the current Pelicans roster. Is it THAT big of a deal to try to trick your fans into thinking you're trying to be competitive? What is the upside there that anti-tanking folks believe these teams should be playing these veteran role players?
Posted on 10/22/14 at 12:18 pm to VermilionTiger
quote:7 wins by my count. Was this a trick question?
Does 7-4 to end the regular season translate to wins?
Posted on 10/22/14 at 1:37 pm to arcalades
Posted on 10/22/14 at 4:09 pm to PortCityTiger24
Zach Lowe's article on the vote
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Just two days ago, higher-ups with both the Sixers and the league office expected lottery reform to pass by a vote of either 29-1 or 28-2. Over the weekend, Thunder GM Sam Presti initiated a stealth lobbying campaign against the league’s proposed changes, outlined here, which would have smoothed out the odds across the lottery. Presti raised concerns that such reform, piled atop other coming changes, would hurt small-market teams. A bunch of those non-glamour teams — including the Spurs and just about every branch of the Spurs management tree — eventually came around to the Sixers/Thunder “no” side. According to sources, the vote was 17-13 in favor of lottery reform, but 23 positive votes were needed for the proposal to pass
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1. Under the league’s proposal, teams at the top of the lottery, the very worst teams, would have had a reduced chance of snagging the no. 1 pick and staying within the top three and top six.
2. The anti-Philly animus is real
3. The league will probably try again.
4. The union might end up in the same place.
5. No one knows if any of this is really true yet.
6. Whether this really hurts small markets is unclear.
7. The Sixers, of course, are a large-market team using these alleged small-market tactics, and no one is sure if they’ll succeed
8. The league will fight to the death any perception that small-market teams face a disadvantage. It will point to the recent success of Indiana and Memphis, two teams that didn’t need a massive lottery win.
9. Some teams appear to have voted out of straight self-interest linked to protected picks, another indication that the league might have rushed into this change. (Why I initially said attempting to do this so quickly was such a bad idea)
10. That raises the big question: If you’re going to change the lottery system, what is the best move?
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