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re: NBA age limit-yay or nay?
Posted on 6/28/15 at 1:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 6/28/15 at 1:47 pm to SlowFlowPro
Should be no surprise... I think that's the consensus around here.
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Posted on 6/28/15 at 2:24 pm to SabiDojo
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The moment you turn 18, you should be able to go be a professional basketball player
FIFY. The NBA isn't a right.
They have their own rules. They think it's better investment for slightly more mature players. An extra year can provide so much more film on evaluating players.
The health of the league is dependent on the health of the franchises, which are dependent on quality of the employee.
It's not about a player's right, it's about what's best for the league. The player can go play-that's his right. He just can't do it in the NBA, which is a privilege.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 2:42 pm to RonBurgundy
I don't think everybody is as pro-NBA as you or wants to protect the league. I like watching the best basketball players in the world and want everyone to have the same opportunities. Some guys gets broken down in college or just wash out. Things that might not have happened had they been allowed to go professional right away and had the proper structure. You are leaving the development of the players to people who are generally ill equipped to improve them and protect them. Plus they don't have the ability or "right" to pursue outside counsel or help, as it will lose them their eligibility.
All you want to do is empower a broken system, in college basketball, to manipulate and steal the players talents to bolster profits. Your only compromise is to send underdeveloped and immature teenagers (by your own admission) overseas to pursue a menial living in horrible and usually hostile environments. Then we make a big deal when the kid fails? I wouldn't have made it that well at 18 trying to live in Bejing or Western Russia. That plan is just stupid.
A kid should have the right to declare whenever he wants, if a team is willing to take him. I don't care if is 15. If they team wants him, let them pay for him and develop him accordingly. That's a free market system.
That's exactly how baseball does it, in other countries. Since everybody is so in love with baseball's scouting structure, let's follow the international model. Let kids sign young and really develop them..
All you want to do is empower a broken system, in college basketball, to manipulate and steal the players talents to bolster profits. Your only compromise is to send underdeveloped and immature teenagers (by your own admission) overseas to pursue a menial living in horrible and usually hostile environments. Then we make a big deal when the kid fails? I wouldn't have made it that well at 18 trying to live in Bejing or Western Russia. That plan is just stupid.
A kid should have the right to declare whenever he wants, if a team is willing to take him. I don't care if is 15. If they team wants him, let them pay for him and develop him accordingly. That's a free market system.
That's exactly how baseball does it, in other countries. Since everybody is so in love with baseball's scouting structure, let's follow the international model. Let kids sign young and really develop them..
Posted on 6/28/15 at 2:52 pm to RonBurgundy
The whole right versus privilege isn't a very strong argument, fwiw, and isn't really an analysis that's necessary for this discussion.
And, to be clear, my statement wasn't to be taken as a legal one. I believe that if a young man turns 18, he should be able to become a professional ball player, including in the NBA.
As stated earlier, lots of college kids don't really hone skillsets during their time in college ball. In my opinion, the one-and-done rule benefits the NCAA more than it does the players.
And, to be clear, my statement wasn't to be taken as a legal one. I believe that if a young man turns 18, he should be able to become a professional ball player, including in the NBA.
As stated earlier, lots of college kids don't really hone skillsets during their time in college ball. In my opinion, the one-and-done rule benefits the NCAA more than it does the players.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 3:36 pm to brmark70816
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I don't think everybody is as pro-NBA as you or wants to protect the league. I like watching the best basketball players in the world and want everyone to have the same opportunities. Some guys gets broken down in college or just wash out. Things that might not have happened had they been allowed to go professional right away and had the proper structure. You are leaving the development of the players to people who are generally ill equipped to improve them and protect them. Plus they don't have the ability or "right" to pursue outside counsel or help, as it will lose them their eligibility.
All you want to do is empower a broken system, in college basketball, to manipulate and steal the players talents to bolster profits. Your only compromise is to send underdeveloped and immature teenagers (by your own admission) overseas to pursue a menial living in horrible and usually hostile environments. Then we make a big deal when the kid fails? I wouldn't have made it that well at 18 trying to live in Bejing or Western Russia.
My take has little to do with college basketball, although it's receive the benefit. The quality of play GREATLY suffered in preps to pro era because of lot guys taking up rosters spots didn't know how to play the game of basketball in a professional manner.
The only reason preps started to flood the league was because of the rookie salary cap, before then resume building to negoitate a wage was the standard in the NBA. An extra year just means youre one step closer to your second contract.
Outliers excluded, 18 years olds are not ready for the NBA. The league is in a better place since the age limit, there is clearly some correlation.
I'm all in favor paying college athletes of profitable sports.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 4:01 pm to RonBurgundy
Should be no age limit. If they do increase it, I hope nobody (either with the NBA or NCAA) pretends that they're doing this for the benefit of the players.
Posted on 6/28/15 at 4:50 pm to RonBurgundy
The NBA will never raise the limit again only because college coaches suck at developing talent. This is why you are seeing GMs focusing morning resources on the d-league
Posted on 6/29/15 at 1:47 am to ohiovol
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Should be no age limit. If they do increase it, I hope nobody (either with the NBA or NCAA) pretends that they're doing this for the benefit of the players.
No one is, they're doing it for the benefit of the league.
Posted on 6/29/15 at 2:08 am to RonBurgundy
What I would like would be impossible to make a policy because of the NCAA. You'd like to see the rare KG, Kobe, Lebron kind of talent be able to go pro right out of high school... but you'd like to protect the kids who aren't going to be top 20 picks from ruining their possibility of going to college
So pretty much I'd like the NCAA to allow players who don't sign with an agent and don't get drafted in the top 20 to retain their college eligibility.
So pretty much I'd like the NCAA to allow players who don't sign with an agent and don't get drafted in the top 20 to retain their college eligibility.
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