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re: MLB Trade Deadline Thread (8/1: Rangers acquire Lucroy and Jeffress)

Posted on 7/22/16 at 10:01 am to
Posted by BCMCubs
Colorado
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 10:01 am to
I definitely like having him on the club. Always seems to get a timely hit.
Posted by Broseph Barksdale
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 10:07 am to
DeRosa from MLB Network saying CWS and WSH might make a good match with this blockbuster:

Sale and Eaton for Ross, Giolito, Turner, and Robles.

All I would say is holy shite!
Posted by The Sad Banana
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 10:08 am to
Mark DeRosa is a waterhead. Put no stock in speculation from people on TV.
Posted by Broseph Barksdale
Member since Sep 2010
10571 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 10:11 am to
Right, but that's the kind of deal Ibwant to start seeing. Enough playing around, let's see some teams drop some bombs.
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 10:14 am to
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Enough playing around, let's see some teams drop some bombs



Don't think it's happening this year. Sale is going no where. Yanks may do some dumping but Heyman keeps saying no big names will be available so we'll see.

Could be one of those stand pat seasons.
Posted by Maximus
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 10:20 am to
Don't worry. Dusty is about to sell the farm for Aroldis.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 11:56 am to
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The Blue Jays scouted both Andrew Cashner and CC Sabathia for their starts last night, per FanRag’s Jon Heyman.


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The Royals are among the clubs that have taken a look at Braves right fielder Nick Markakis, writes MLB.com’s Mark Bowman.


Posted by McCaigBro69
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 12:05 pm to
Word from 105.3 the Fan in Dallas: Rangers and Rays not matching up. Tampa wants Profar for either Odorizzi or Moore. Jurickson is the No. 1 target for Tampa, but Texas is only willing to include him in a trade fro Chris Archer.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 1:38 pm to
Are they still talking or have they completely broken off talks?
Posted by stlslick
St.Louis,Mo
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 1:44 pm to
the MLB insiders keep saying there wont be any big deals

The every day joes who cover teams claim there will be some blockbusters.


Posted by Jwho77
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 1:46 pm to
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Word from 105.3 the Fan in Dallas: Rangers and Rays not matching up. Tampa wants Profar for either Odorizzi or Moore. Jurickson is the No. 1 target for Tampa, but Texas is only willing to include him in a trade fro Chris Archer.


Arlington is handling that properly then. For now, at least.
Posted by tduecen
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 1:50 pm to
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The Astros are looking for left-handed relief help and asked the Braves about Hunter Cervenka as a fallback option if their primary, more established targets don’t pan out. Fellow left-hander Ian Krol has gotten some looks for the Braves as well, Rosenthal notes, though I’d personally imagine that Krol would have a higher price tag, as Cervenka has walked nearly six batters per nine innings this season and has limited big league experience.
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 1:52 pm to
Would be surprised if Luhnow doesn't deal for a LOOGY.
Posted by TXGunslinger10
Houston, TX
Member since Jun 2011
17996 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 2:24 pm to
We need a starter. Badly
Posted by lsu31always
Team 31™
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 2:51 pm to
I'll trade you Lucas Harrell for bregman
Posted by Jwho77
cyperspace
Member since Sep 2003
76769 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:38 pm to
MLB Network saying the #RedSox are talking to #WhiteSox about Chris Sale, Jose Quintana, Joe Smith. Chasing a Sale-David Robertson deal.
Posted by Wayne Campbell
Aurora, IL
Member since Oct 2011
6411 posts
Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:41 pm to
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Sale and Eaton for Ross, Giolito, Turner, and Robles. All I would say is holy shite!


Give up essentially your top 4 prospects (Ross doesn't really count as a prospect any more, but he's only 23) for Sale and Eaton. Can't say I like that move at all.
Posted by Broseph Barksdale
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 7/22/16 at 3:54 pm to
The counter argument is that the Harper window is through 2019 and you have to go for the whole fricking thing. This locks up a Scherzer/Strasburg/Sale/Roark + 1 rotation for that span.

Not saying I'd do it but I get it.
Posted by tduecen
Member since Nov 2006
161244 posts
Posted on 7/23/16 at 10:24 am to
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The Giants have also checked in on Cashner, according to FanRag Sports’ Jon Heyman (Twitter link), though San Francisco is more focused on adding bullpen help before the deadline. The Dodgers don’t appear to be in the mix for Cashner as they “seem to be aiming even higher” for a rotation upgrade, which Heyman speculates could be Chris Sale or one of the Rays’ starting pitchers. In another Heyman tweet, he writes that the Orioles and Blue Jays are thought to be the leaders for Upton.


Posted by Overbrook
Member since May 2013
6103 posts
Posted on 7/23/16 at 10:27 am to
Here's the problem with trading Sale - near impossible to get full value, which consists of:
1)Status as top 5 pitcher
2)Control for another 3/4 years
3)Annual contract well below market value
Contenders need a really good pitcher, but they don't necessarily need a top 5, so they may not be willing to pay for a top 5; 3/4 years of control isn't that important now when you're trying to win a WS; most of the contenders can easily afford a high contract, so they aren't willing to pay full prospect price of a cheaper contract.
So much of the value that the White Sox receive in Sale is under-valued by other teams. Very difficult to get a meeting of the minds, much less in July when sellers rightfully expect to be overpaid.
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