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re: Michael Vick's advice for Colin Kaepernick? 'Just go clean-cut'
Posted on 7/22/17 at 6:59 am to ThePTExperience1969
Posted on 7/22/17 at 6:59 am to ThePTExperience1969
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Matt Barkley
EJ Manuel
Robert Griffin III
Trevor Siemian
Tom Savage
Blake Bortles
Jared Goff
Matt Moore
Sam Bradford
Josh McCown
Tyrod Taylor
Mike Glennon
Carson Wentz
Ryan Tannehill
Some of those guys are recent high draft picks with a lot of upside. You can't expect a team to drop them this quickly.
Disagree that he's better than Bradford and Tannehill.
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Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:01 am to ThePTExperience1969
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Mike Vick
Got signed by three different teams, even though he's black, controversial, and by the end, sucked.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:11 am to ThePTExperience1969
He's not better than Sam Bradford, Carson Wentz, Tanny, Siemian, and is definitely not better than Tyrod Taylor.
Goff offers more upside.
I have no idea who EJ Manuel, RG3, Matt Moore, and Josh McCown are starting for this year.
Goff offers more upside.
I have no idea who EJ Manuel, RG3, Matt Moore, and Josh McCown are starting for this year.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:54 am to StrongSafety
Vick is just telling him to "dress for the job you want". I don't see all the controversy surrounding this.
"You've played like shite. You can play better. Quit looking homeless." That's the summary.
He didn't address his political stances. That's not a race thing. Plenty of people of all colors have to stay presentable for their jobs.
"You've played like shite. You can play better. Quit looking homeless." That's the summary.
He didn't address his political stances. That's not a race thing. Plenty of people of all colors have to stay presentable for their jobs.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 7:58 am to Jcorye1
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EJ Manuel
Bills, I think. Another young guy with upside.
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RG3
Browns. Had a good rookie year but hasn't recovered from the injury.
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Matt Moore, and Josh McCown
Not sure where they are. Moore is a very good backup.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:39 am to AFistfulof$
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Since when did "a black thing" mean being unpatriotic
Idk, but I'm sick and tired of it.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 9:40 am to Bestbank Tiger
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Bills, I think. Another young guy with upside.
That's Tyrod Taylor, who was a legit top 15 QB last year.
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Browns. Had a good rookie year but hasn't recovered from the injury.
That'll be probably be Kizer or Kessler starting for the Browns. Cheap young guys on a rebuilding team.
At this point, we know what Kaepernick is. He is a running QB with a big arm who makes bad decisions and needs an extremely structured offense to succeed. The question is if that structured offense could succeed long term in this league, which I personally don't think it could. Harbaugh was basically running two read half the field passing schemes, which just do not succeed long term in the NFL. Defensive coordinators are just too good, as Chip Kelly found out.
Just to further shite on his point, RG3 is a FA. Barkley isn't going to start or if he does it's as a place holder for Trubitsky, and EJ Manuel is on the Raidahs as a camp body maybe backup.
This post was edited on 7/22/17 at 10:06 am
Posted on 7/22/17 at 10:04 am to StrongSafety
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brings a Tebow media circus
Fair point, but what about production and merit?!!
He's either a backup on a decent or good team, which means there will be no production, and thus he isn't worth the headache or trouble.
Or he will be the starter on a bad team just like last year, in which any production doesn't mean shite since the team is losing, and there will also be a media circus.
Either way, it's pretty easy to see why no team wants him. He just isn't worth the trouble, headache or hoopla that follows him. I'm not sure why the race baiters over at espn can't see this.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 11:42 am to 632627
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Either way, it's pretty easy to see why no team wants him. He just isn't worth the trouble, headache or hoopla that follows him. I'm not sure why the race baiters over at espn can't see this.
Race baiters, as a rule, tend to only see race.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 1:55 pm to StrongSafety
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Nah OJ thought he rose above blackness until he saw how quickly his "color-blind" followers picked racial sides during his trial.
Race didn't have shite to do with whitey thinking he was guilty as frick.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 2:34 pm to StrongSafety
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he's better than every 3rd stringer on a roster and Id say 99% of the #2s. This is objective
If you're not a starter, as a QB, you have to fit the teams system. How many teams would that disqualify him from, simply because he doesn't fit the system. I wouldn't want him on the Saints, for that one simple reason.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 2:44 pm to Tiger Live2
Dress for success, a pretty simple concept.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 5:38 pm to StrongSafety
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Oh so he can't stand for what he believes in? What he is standing up for is noble cause
Kap suddenly felt the need to be a symbol conveniently right as reports were going out that the Niners were about to cut him. Then they can't cut him because racism. Don't give me this bleeding heart crap. Come on man.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 5:52 pm to elprez00
One, Michael Vick being the wise old head shows something dismal about our culture, although he is right. "I don't know who's opinion we can seek, I know, let's ask that wise old sage Mike Vick!"
Two, the bitchers are actually using quite a few black QBs to bitch about who he is better than?
So now having a black QB isn't PC enough, you have to have one who makes an arse of himself?
I would tell my black backup QB to wear one of those Jim Brown hats to cover me.
Two, the bitchers are actually using quite a few black QBs to bitch about who he is better than?
So now having a black QB isn't PC enough, you have to have one who makes an arse of himself?
I would tell my black backup QB to wear one of those Jim Brown hats to cover me.
Posted on 7/22/17 at 5:52 pm to elprez00
Yeah it was weird how just started doing all this protest stuff this past year. By that point he had lost the starting job to Blaine Gabbert and was mostly forgotten by everyone until the protest thing. There was no news of him pulling this stuff back when he was the 49ers sure fire starter.
Posted on 7/23/17 at 12:02 am to StrongSafety
Clean cut?
Are we talking about hair?
Still don't know how he gets his hat on.
Most of us played football - those helmets are tight fitting as hell. That's why people buzzed their heads during football season.
Are we talking about hair?
Still don't know how he gets his hat on.
Most of us played football - those helmets are tight fitting as hell. That's why people buzzed their heads during football season.
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