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re: Matt Ryan has actually outplayed Aaron Rodgers lately...
Posted on 1/19/17 at 2:47 pm to Korin
Posted on 1/19/17 at 2:47 pm to Korin
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He also has Julio and 2 stud WRs...
You must have meant "2 stud RBs" because other than Julio the Falcons don't have any other stud WRs. Sanu, Gabriel, and company are very much complementary receivers.
If you meant RB then I'd agree Freeman is getting into that top tier level. Coleman isn't there yet.
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 2:48 pm
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Posted on 1/19/17 at 2:48 pm to Korin
quote:using the term "stud" loosely.
2 stud WRs...
Posted on 1/19/17 at 3:09 pm to Caplewood
Who is the starting running back for GB?
5th string receiver you say?
5th string receiver you say?
Posted on 1/19/17 at 3:11 pm to RB10
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Getting to play the Saint's defense twice is an unfair advantage
Posted on 1/19/17 at 3:14 pm to Caplewood
quote:Why does Matty smile like someone is shoving a gerbil up his arse?
Posted on 1/19/17 at 3:22 pm to Kafka
Jimmy Fallon called him Where's Waldo without the hat and glasses. Perfect if you ask me.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 3:42 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
Nothing to do with Julio, Freeman, and starting the same offensive line in every single game this year (which is just mind blowingly lucky).
So sure, he's been statistically equal or even surpassing Rodgers. Anyone who's watched Rodgers play during this stretch wouldn't agree that Ryan has played better though.
Also:
So sure, he's been statistically equal or even surpassing Rodgers. Anyone who's watched Rodgers play during this stretch wouldn't agree that Ryan has played better though.
Also:
quote:
Getting to play the Saint's defense twice is an unfair advantage
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 1/19/17 at 3:43 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
this thread has gone swimmingly. lots of excuses posted. it is definitely just not possible for matt ryan to have been better
Posted on 1/19/17 at 3:46 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
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lots of excuses posted.
When you can't combat logical points/explanations made you call them excuses. Nice
Let's also ignore the defenses played during the stretch too:
Green Bay: 9.875 (average defense ranking), with 2 top 5 pass defenses.
Atlanta: 17 with 0 top 5 pass defenses.
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 3:56 pm
Posted on 1/19/17 at 3:57 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
Think how fricking good Rodgers would be in Atlanta's offense. My god.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 3:59 pm to TheCaterpillar
he might even be as good as matt ryan has been
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 4:00 pm
Posted on 1/19/17 at 4:00 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
What's impressing people is that he's doing this without a true running game. ETA: And because of how he looks when he's on.
Rodgers has a wow factor when he plays. Not so much with Ryan.
Rodgers has a wow factor when he plays. Not so much with Ryan.
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 4:03 pm
Posted on 1/19/17 at 4:00 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
Posted on 1/19/17 at 4:02 pm to TigerBait1127
Matt Ryan defenders aren't the ones moving the goalposts, baw. Matt has the numbers.
You are clamoring to the eye test, playing the Saints twice, and having superior weapons. The vast majority of these weapons were there last year. Julio and Freeman ate in 2015. Let's not act like these Pro Bowlers came out of thin air.
Explain why the Falcons are the top passing offense by any metric.
You are clamoring to the eye test, playing the Saints twice, and having superior weapons. The vast majority of these weapons were there last year. Julio and Freeman ate in 2015. Let's not act like these Pro Bowlers came out of thin air.
Explain why the Falcons are the top passing offense by any metric.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 4:03 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
quote:Matt Ryan has played very well. Julio is a beast. Legit #2 WR with Sanu. 900+ receiving yards out of the backfield. Solid running game to keep the defense honest.
Explain why the Falcons are the top passing offense by any metric.
Did I miss anything?
ETA: Also, it's funny you say "top passing offense by any metric." You sure about that?
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 1/19/17 at 4:09 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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Matt Ryan defenders aren't the ones moving the goalposts, baw. Matt has the numbers.
I'm not moving the goal post. I fully admit the Ryan has the statistical advantage when it comes to just QB stats.
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You are clamoring to the eye test, playing the Saints twice, and having superior weapons.
Actually, that isn't what I did. I supported my argument with FACTS
Facts that I used to support my argument:
1) During that stretch, the Packers played an average defense ranked in the top 10 in yards and ppg. The Falcons played an average defense ranked 17th in yards, and the 19th in ppg
2) Atlanta averages 120.5 yards per game on the ground. The Packers average 106.3 and have been decimated by injuries.
3) Atlanta has had a healthy offensive line all season. They have started the same guys in every game this season.
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The vast majority of these weapons were there last year. Julio and Freeman ate in 2015.
Wtf does that have to do with anything? We're not comparing Matt Ryan to himself, not to mention that his offensive line was in shambles.
Their playaction ability this year has been one of the best I've ever seen with that running game, offensive line, Julio, and Ryan's abilities.
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Explain why the Falcons are the top passing offense by any metric.
I already have. You just decided that I was "moving the goalpoasts" which is bullshite. I'm discussing which QB has played better given their teams and competition.
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Nothing to do with Julio, Freeman, and starting the same offensive line in every single game this year (which is just mind blowingly lucky). So sure, he's been statistically equal or even surpassing Rodgers
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 4:49 pm
Posted on 1/19/17 at 4:22 pm to StrongBackWeakMind
The development of Tevin Coleman as an ultimate third down back was huge and everyone in the offense (that isn't a lineman) is now a pass catching threat.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 4:29 pm to rockchlkjayhku11
Of course he has, but don't tell anyone else otherwise.
He also had a better game against much better secondary and defense in the divisional round but all you hear about is Rodgers heroics.
He also had a better game against much better secondary and defense in the divisional round but all you hear about is Rodgers heroics.
Posted on 1/19/17 at 4:42 pm to dhuck20
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He also had a better game against much better secondary and defense in the divisional round but all you hear about is Rodgers heroics.
They went on the road, without their best receiver, and beat the #1 seed on one of the best passes ever. Of course you're gonna hear about that more.
Also, Rodgers played the Hawks during this stretch of games. He went 18/23 for 246 yards, 3 TDs 0 Ints, and a 150.8 passer rating
This post was edited on 1/19/17 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 1/19/17 at 4:49 pm to TigerBait1127
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Let's also ignore the defenses played during the stretch too:
Green Bay: 9.875 (average defense ranking), with 2 top 5 pass defenses.
Atlanta: 17 with 0 top 5 pass defenses.
Was about to post this.
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