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re: Louisiana High School Baseball 2017

Posted on 5/14/17 at 12:00 pm to
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 5/14/17 at 12:00 pm to
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Can parents choose which public school their kid attends?



I wasn't trying to insinuate or be clear and precise to explain.

I will though. If parent has a kid who is in travel ball of some sort and wants to send their kid to a top-rate baseball program (a la my nephew who is in travel ball and very good) and if they have the ability to move into a zone before they turn of age for high school, the combination of emotion, winning, and staying power could lead them to go to Central when before they may not and choose to go elsewhere. That is all I am insinuating as I have a nephew who is decided between Sterlington, West Monroe, and OCS as we speak who is 12 years old.

His mom will decide where he goes to school in the near future and plan accordingly. That is freedom of choice and Sterlington being so good is a major factor right now with winning football last year and baseball the other day.

Posted by Riolobo
On the lake
Member since Mar 2017
4284 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 12:16 pm to
St Freds in Monroe? Evil? They are average to below average in all sports.
Posted by LCLa
Member since Apr 2017
3125 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 12:23 pm to
I was using sarcasm to demonstrate the lunacy of the split. Schools like St. Fred are considered the same as John Curtis and University when they are nothing like them.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
47675 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 12:32 pm to
They use the potential of a school to load up, not actual results... as in high school sports, one great player is enough to make an otherwise average team good.
Posted by lsu711
Member since Sep 2003
13078 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 12:32 pm to
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if they have the ability to move into a zone before they turn of age for high school


I don't know all of the rules, so that's why I ask.

It seems asinine to force a split if the only extra hurdle the "average" public has relative to a private is the public school may need the kid/family to move into the school's zone. If the family is motivated to pick a high school for athletics, then relocating is no issue.

To your point, the split is all about an easier chance to win and not at all about a fair chance to win.
Posted by reo45
Member since Nov 2015
6362 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 12:43 pm to
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It seems asinine to force a split if the only extra hurdle the "average" public has relative to a private is the public school may need the kid/family to move into the school's zone. If the family is motivated to pick a high school for athletics, then relocating is no issue.

To your point, the split is all about an easier chance to win and not at all about a fair chance to win.



I am totally against the split in every which way. It is a joke.

I will tell you that I know for certain that a certain player that played at (________) would travel from farmerville every morning to get to (_______) after "transferring" into their "zone". This was back in 97' and 98'.

How do I know this for certain? The head football coach at a very, very, very prominent private school here in Monroe told me in his office directly. He said he would go outside every morning just about and wave at the kid and his grandma as they drove by the school headed to the other school he "transferred" to. I won't use school names here, but both these schools are champions in football many times over.

This was a transfer from private to public. The whole entire split is a farce directly on it's face. It is an illusion, a lie. It is a joke.

I grew up around all this stuff for years having played with and coached by players and coaches around the North Louisiana area who were friends. Both private and public have "transfers" and both do whatever it takes to get an edge.

And, I do not blame them one bit. The rules are dumb. A family should have the freedom of choice to send their kid wherever they so choose to send them. The rules aren't pure or morally motivated at all.

This post was edited on 5/14/17 at 1:32 pm
Posted by Riolobo
On the lake
Member since Mar 2017
4284 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 12:55 pm to
Gotcha. That's a good point
Posted by ForkEmDemons
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since May 2014
2235 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 1:20 pm to
quote:

Schools like St. Fred are considered the same as John Curtis and University when they are nothing like them.


On that same token, supporters of the split are trying to say that Oak Gove and Kentwood are unable to compete with Ridgewood and Ecole Classique.

Class A was almost perfect before the split. Total joke now.
Posted by LCLa
Member since Apr 2017
3125 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 1:38 pm to
To your point, I contend that it is much easier to relocate than allocate 30,000 plus dollars to tuition over four years.
Posted by WM
West Monroe
Member since Nov 2003
811 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 3:28 pm to
quote:

Schools like St. Fred are considered the same as John Curtis and University when they are nothing like them.


I played with a guy in middle school in West Monroe. He never moved out of West Monroe but I played against him the next year while he was playing for St. Fred's. Funny thing is, he said his reason for transferring there was to play for a winner. Lol
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30649 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 8:55 pm to
actually since the split the gap between the haves and have nots has gotten exponentially wider..


and will continue to do so
Posted by lucaslsu
LSU!
Member since Oct 2007
8447 posts
Posted on 5/14/17 at 10:58 pm to
What about these 19.5 year old HS seniors?
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34229 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 6:48 am to
quote:

If the family is motivated to pick a high school for athletics, then relocating is no issue.


So how many students at a private/parochial school had to sell their home and move to attend said school. Belittling this point doesn't support your argument imo.
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 1:30 pm
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30649 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 7:17 am to
quote:

What about these 19.5 year old HS seniors?



bigger impact than recruiting....
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21527 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 8:17 am to
quote:

principals shot down 2out of 3 the whole way.


Lots of times you get horrible decisions made when you base athletic decision on principal votes. Most of them care very little about athletics and even less about baseball.

Anyone can see that the playoff format in almost every aspect, makes no sense.
Posted by choupiquesushi
yaton rouge
Member since Jun 2006
30649 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 8:43 am to
quote:



Lots of times you get horrible decisions made when you base athletic decision on principal votes. Most of them care very little about athletics and even less about baseball.

Anyone can see that the playoff format in almost every aspect, makes no sense


some 2 out of 3 is better than none...... even when my son's team won game 1 but later got eliminated after dropping games 2 and 3.


some 2 out 3 is better than one and done the whole way through
Posted by JJ27
Member since Sep 2004
60388 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 9:05 am to
2 out of 3 can't happen because there are 48 teams...Dear Lord why are there 48 teams at "State"...My question is, why must the state tournament be held in Sulphur? Yes they do have a large capacity. That capacity is worthless though considering there isn't a single good seat in the house. Massive poles block your view at every angle. It's a terrible place to watch a baseball game. I was very disappointed in that regard.
This post was edited on 5/15/17 at 9:11 am
Posted by Red Stick 55
Madisonville
Member since Oct 2012
381 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 9:41 am to

"What about these 19.5 year old HS seniors?"

Encouraged, sounds like a good model to me.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21527 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 9:46 am to
quote:

2 out of 3 can't happen because there are 48 teams...Dear Lord why are there 48 teams at "State".


I assume you mean 48 teams in Sulphur for the semis and finals.

THAT is only the result of a much more basic problem. The basic problem is that there are 265 f'ing teams that made the playoffs! How does that make sense? If you can't fill out a bracket fully until the quarter finals, you have a problem.

Hell, if your school team didn't make the post season this year, you need to really evaluate the program.


quote:

My question is, why must the state tournament be held in Sulphur?


Because they pay the most money to LHSAA. Personally, I liked it a lot better when the different classes were held at different locations. Requests for bids are (or at least were) out for locations for upcoming years. I really hope they can pull it away from Sulphur at least temporarily.
Posted by AwesomeSauce
Das Boot
Member since May 2015
7585 posts
Posted on 5/15/17 at 10:10 am to
quote:

I will tell you that I know for certain that a certain player that played at (________) would travel from farmerville every morning to get to (_______) after "transferring" into their "zone". This was back in 97' and 98'.

How do I know this for certain? The head football coach at a very, very, very prominent private school here in Monroe told me in his office directly. He said he would go outside every morning just about and wave at the kid and his grandma as they drove by the school headed to the other school he "transferred" to. I won't use school names here, but both these schools are champions in football many times over.


Ha, I know exactly who you are talking about as I lived in that same little block in Farmerville.
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