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re: Little known rules of baseball

Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by Bojangles
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
2088 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:40 pm to
Rule 3.09: "...Players of opposing teams shall not fraternize at any time while in uniform"

This is one of those archaic sports rules that no one follows and no one would ever enforce. Players regularly converse prior to games, during batting practice, and on the basepaths between plays once the game begins.
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21556 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:52 pm to
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Infielder does this, it's a triple

Outfielder does it, and it's a home run


No.

If any fielder throws his glove at a fair ball in play AND touches it, the runner is awarded 3 bases and may choose to advance to home at his own peril.

If the ump rules that the ball was going to fly over the fence, then he can award home base.
Posted by TheOfficial
Member since Feb 2005
1376 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:55 pm to
I had an umpire tell me one time that a first and third baseman can also balk like a catcher. If they catch a pick off throw with a foot in foul territory it is a balk. It was a high school ump so I don't know how accurate he was.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:57 pm to
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No. If any fielder throws his glove at a fair ball in play AND touches it, the runner is awarded 3 bases and may choose to advance to home at his own peril.

Stache - you're definitely right. Attaboy. Thought I would point out a time when we agree.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112447 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 1:02 pm to
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If they catch a pick off throw with a foot in foul territory it is a balk. It was a high school ump so I don't know how accurate he was.


That's absurd. If a runner at first base breaks and then stops during a pickoff and the pitcher's throw causes the 1B to step into foul territory to catch it..and the runner is attempting to return to 1B he can be tagged out. I've seen it happen lots of times.
Posted by Moustache
GEAUX TIGERS
Member since May 2008
21556 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 1:24 pm to
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Stache - you're definitely right. Attaboy. Thought I would point out a time when we agree.


Holy crap. We actually agree on something. I feel like the universe isn't right.
Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
41178 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 1:57 pm to
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I had an umpire tell me one time that a first and third baseman can also balk like a catcher


Only one player (catcher) can be in foul territory when the pitcher is delivered.
Posted by Dupont3
Keithville
Member since Nov 2011
1728 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 3:01 pm to
Tis true
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21662 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 3:29 pm to
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Defensive indifference most often means they wouldn't have had a play, not that the runner didn't "steal" the base


Defensive indifference is usually ruled when the defensive team has a lead late in a game and the runner on 1st advancing to 2nd really doesn't mean anything. So, the catcher simply throws the ball back to the pitcher and neither the SS or 2B attempts to cover 2nd base. If a runner steals a bag and the catcher doesn't throw it because it's obvious he'll be safe, that isn't called defensive indifference.
Posted by guedeaux
Tardis
Member since Jan 2008
13609 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 3:57 pm to
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3. Pitcher has only 20 seconds to pitch the ball. If he fails to do so, the batter is awarded first.


I wonder how they would score that? A walk ?


And why throw 4 balls to intentionally walk someone? Just hold onto the ball for 21 secs and the batter takes first...
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
11036 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 4:05 pm to
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And why throw 4 balls to intentionally walk someone? Just hold onto the ball for 21 secs and the batter takes first...

Have you ever seen a bases empty intentional walk where the catcher actually stands up and asks for 4 intentional balls?

The rule is no longer in effect with men on base.
Posted by ILeaveAtHalftime
Member since Sep 2013
2889 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 4:05 pm to
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wait -- they went to the time, effort, and money to build an entire park dedicated to baseball and only baseball, and they still have a yellow stripe?


Not sure if you are serious, and didn't read the thread. But Turner Field was not built originally for baseball.
Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
3857 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 4:29 pm to
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Do or do not, there is no tie.


The rule states that the runner must beat the throw. If it's a tie he doesn't beat it so he's out.
Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
3857 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 4:34 pm to
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Only one player (catcher) can be in foul territory when the pitcher is delivered.


A fielder can be partly in foul territory at time of pitch (one foot in play, one not). This occurs when the 1B or 3B is holding a runner on.
Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
3857 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 4:36 pm to
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If they catch a pick off throw with a foot in foul territory it is a balk. It was a high school ump so I don't know how accurate he was.


That ump was wrong. It's only illegal if both feet are in foul territory.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
65867 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 4:42 pm to
is this pro?
Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
3857 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 4:57 pm to
I played and coached baseball for over 20 yrs and thought I knew everything about the game until I went through HS umpire training. Unreal how much I don't know and the quirky rules.

The most interesting one you rarely ever see has to do with establishing a baseline as a runner. When you take a lead off of 1B or 2B you can literally stand deep in the outfield if you want. You are just establishing your own baseline between you and the next base (or the previous one). But by doing this you are committing yourself to one base or the other in a straight line +/- 3 ft in either direction. This has been done by teams with less than 2 outs to bait them into throwing to the outfield with a runner on 3B. This is a legal play.

There are countless others but this one baffled me.
Posted by Chatagnier
Member since Sep 2008
6851 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 6:53 pm to
Ok, what if the batter has on 0-2 count. He is hit by the pitch while swinging without making contact. Is he awarded first for HBP or is it a strikeout?
Posted by bamafan425
Jackson's Hole
Member since Jan 2009
25607 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 7:01 pm to
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If the ball touches the batter as the batter swings at the ball. This basically means that if the batter is swinging at the ball and the act of swinging has caused the ball to hit the batter, then the ball is a strike. Example: Batter swings and the ball hits him on the forearm as he's swinging. The ball is dead and it is a strike. If the hitter has two strikes, it is strike 3 not a foul ball. This isn't called often as most of the time the player will stop the swing and be hit by the ball. In that case most umpires will determine that the player is attempting to get out of the way by not continuing the swing. So, even though the act of swinging has caused the ball to hit the batter, the umpire may determine that player attempted to get out of the way and award the batter first base.
Posted by tress4pres
Columbus, OH
Member since Dec 2007
3857 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 9:06 pm to
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Ok, what if the batter has on 0-2 count. He is hit by the pitch while swinging without making contact. Is he awarded first for HBP or is it a strikeout?


The batter is out.
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