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Let's talk about Tom Brady's last 8 playoff losses

Posted on 2/4/14 at 1:08 am
Posted by hikingfan
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 1:08 am
People like to say Peyton has had the best team atleast 3 or 4 years and only has one ring to show for it.

Tom Brady has an average QB rating of 77.6 with a 11 TD to 10 INT ratio in his last 8 postseason losses (since his last ring in 2004). They were the clear-cut overwhelming favorites in 5 of those 8 losses.

Tom Brady is fantastic but he has been a very average QB in the postseason over the past near-decade...only his early spy-cam and Vinatieri enabled success seem to offset any criticism about his post season play since the 2005 season. Hey, even Manning has one more ring and an extra trip to the Super Bowl compared to Brady since 2005.
Posted by Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 1:18 am to
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since 2005


arbitrary qualifier.

In the 12 seasons he has played in his career (throwing out the year he tore his knee up in Week 1) he's lead his team to 8 AFC Championship Games, 5 Super Bowl appearances and won 3 Lombardis. That is a fricking phenomenal resume.
This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 1:23 am
Posted by Gavroche
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 1:54 am to
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In the 12 seasons he has played in his career (throwing out the year he tore his knee up in Week 1) he's lead his team to 8 AFC Championship Games, 5 Super Bowl appearances and won 3 Lombardis. That is a fricking phenomenal resume.


this is really all that matters

This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 1:56 am
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 2:03 am to
Give it a rest.

These threads are getting old.

Nobody sucks like Manning in the post-season.

We all watch football.

Get over it.
Posted by BayouBengals03
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 2:13 am to
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In the 12 seasons he has played in his career (throwing out the year he tore his knee up in Week 1) he's lead his team to 8 AFC Championship Games, 5 Super Bowl appearances and won 3 Lombardis. That is a fricking phenomenal resume.

It would be really nice if he could win again.
Posted by VerlanderBEAST
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 4:04 am to
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arbitrary qualifier.

Not its not. The Pats lost both their coordinators and their best player(Ty Law) after the 2004 season
This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 4:29 am
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 4:13 am to
Oh look, another one of these threads
Posted by prplhze2000
Parts Unknown
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 4:49 am to
It was either 2010 or 2011 season where Brady played lights out all year
Posted by ballscaster
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 6:07 am to
Since Spygate, every Brady season has ended with Brady choking in a big game.
Posted by Jcorye1
Tom Brady = GoAT
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 6:20 am to
Lol. What a bunch of miserable fricks. You can't prove your guy isn't a choker, so you lash out at other players. Sounds legit.
This post was edited on 2/4/14 at 7:32 am
Posted by craigbiggio
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 7:01 am to
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and their best player(Ty Law)


Posted by TigerintheNO
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 7:22 am to
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Nobody sucks like Manning in the post-season


AROD gives him a run for his $$$
Posted by Nonetheless
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 7:27 am to
Idiot
Posted by boom roasted
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 7:38 am to
hikingfan; dr
Posted by theunknownknight
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 7:40 am to
It is odd that Brady has escaped criticism for an entire decade of choking. His post season QB rating actually drops well below Manning's even IF you include the Super Bowl seasons.

The 2007 loss to the giants was a epic choke job worse than this year's Super Bowl.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 8:11 am to
can we talk about his 20 plus wins, 8 title game appearances, 5 super bowl appearances, 3 super bowl championships and 2 Super Bowl MVPs?
Posted by brgfather129
Los Angeles, CA
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 2/4/14 at 8:14 am to
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In the 12 seasons he has played in his career (throwing out the year he tore his knee up in Week 1) he's lead his team to 8 AFC Championship Games, 5 Super Bowl appearances and won 3 Lombardis


...and 11 division titles.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 8:15 am to
10+ wins 2001, 2003-2013
Posted by theunknownknight
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
57289 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 8:18 am to
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can we talk about his 20 plus wins, 8 title game appearances, 5 super bowl appearances, 3 super bowl championships and 2 Super Bowl MVPs?


He doesn't have 20+ wins in the playoffs.

I think the point if this thread is that he has APPEARED in a lot of big games and choked in virtually everyone for 10 years.

With Brady, though, just APPEARING is great. He doesn't have to win anymore. With Manning, he is EXPECTED to win every year. What's that really say about who we really think is better?

The reality is Brady is 8-8 since his last Superbowl win and 3-7 on the road, with worse stats than Manning (with Manning having more SB wins)....but Brady gets credit for appearing and Manning doesn't.

Now I really don't care either way...just calling it like I see it.

Posted by shel311
McKinney, Texas
Member since Aug 2004
110818 posts
Posted on 2/4/14 at 8:19 am to
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Tom Brady has an average QB rating of 77.6 with a 11 TD to 10 INT ratio in his last 8 postseason losses (since his last ring in 2004). They were the clear-cut overwhelming favorites in 5 of those 8 losses.
For anyone would believes in the wizardy of "clutch" and the guy who "plays his best in big games" and all that stuff that gets assigned to guys like Brady after winning 3 Super Bowls, how do you explain this?

Did he lose his clutch gene?
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